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Mike Hornsby <[log in to unmask]>
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Mike Hornsby <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:32:56 -0400
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Oops, sorry left off that pesky directory option.
<rant on> I wish that the directory was part of the SLT and came in on the
Install. <rant off>
Thanks

Mike Hornsby
Beechglen Development Inc.
Enterprise Solutions & Support
 www.beechglen.com
 513-922-0509

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Cole <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: was Reload sanity check/ now Reload security check


> I agree with the concept of breaking up the restores into multiple parts.
> The only modification I would make is that on the backup you store all the
> system directories.  Then when you do the restore you would restore the
> directory:
>
> restore @[log in to unmask];SHOW;OLDDATE;KEEP;DIRECTORY
>
> The restore of the system directories recovers the system accounting
> structure and the account, group and user capabilities, passwords and
access
> rights.  The CREATE option will rebuild the accounting structure but will
> not recover capabilities or passwords.  All created accounts, groups and
> users are created with default capabilities.
>
> If  after all files have been restored, if there are files that don't
> restore because the creator doesn't exist then another way of addressing
> this issue is to perform an additional restore:
>
> restore @[log in to unmask]@;SHOW;OLDDATE;KEEP;CREATOR=manager
>
> This would restore only those files that originally did not come back due
to
> the creator problem and would alter the files creator to "manager" or to
any
> user you specify.
>
>
> =================================
> Steve Cole
> Outer Banks Solutions, Inc.
> [log in to unmask]
> www.outerbankssolutions.com
> Phone: 919.231.2171  Fax: 919.231.7077
> Sales:   800.558.5336
> =================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Hornsby <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 10:02 AM
> Subject: was Reload sanity check/ now Reload security check
>
>
> > On a larger system, or if the system has a lot of non critical path
files,
> > (spoolfiles ,test accounts, source code) I would recommend to split the
> > restore into three parts.
> >
> > 1. restore @[log in to unmask];SHOW;OLDDATE;KEEP;CREATE  (this gives access to all
the
> > utilities)
> > 2. REBOOT and start the network (I like to see if the reboot will work
> ASAP)
> > 3. restore @[log in to unmask] ACCOUNTS;SHOW;OLDDATE;KEEP;CREATE
> > 4. checkout production applications
> > 5. restore @[log in to unmask]@;SHOW;OLDDATE;KEEP;CREATE
> >
> > This method while slightly more complex has three benefits:
> > a. you get to the reboot step sooner. While this doesn't save time it
can
> be
> > disheartening to find out after 6 hours that you don't have the correct
> > configuration.
> > b. you get to the testing and production sooner.
> > c. the busier files are reloaded together and this creates better
locality
> > on the discs.
> >
> > ONE OTHER THING,
> > AFTER EACH RESTORE IN THE SYS ACCOUNT WITH THE CREATE OPTION, IT IS VERY
> > IMPORTANT TO CHECK FOR USERS THAT DON'T HAVE PASSWORDS! Users in the SYS
> > account can become group users for PUB and other groups in the SYS
> account.
> >
> > This has long been a bug in MPE RESTORE. <rant on> Why the creator of a
> file
> > must exist to restore the file when it didn't exist when the file was
> stored
> > is beyond me. <pun on> But it does CREATE havoc at restore time!<pun
off>
> > <rant off>
> >
> > Mike Hornsby
> > Beechglen Development Inc.
> > Enterprise Solutions & Support
> > www.beechglen.com
> > 513-922-0509

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