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Ray writes:

> While I mean no disrespect towards Wirt, I couldn't help but recall his
> quote: "On the whole, I'm very impressed with the design of Microsoft's
> OS. I am certainly impressed with the amount of documentation available
> for Windows, and I am deeply impressed with Microsoft's committment to
> backwards compatibility."

You misquote me, sir, by the act of quoting me out of context. I did say 
that "On the whole, I'm very impressed with the design of Microsoft's OS. I am 
certainly impressed with the amount of documentation available for Windows, 
and I am deeply impressed with Microsoft's committment to backwards 
compatibility."

But I also said that Vista is not ready for prime time and that I'm 
recommending to our customers that they stay on XP. But that's just my 
public statements on the subject. My wife knows that my private comments 
regarding Vista would make John McCain blush. 

As I mentioned to Rene Woc a few weeks ago, the Mac ads tend to be 
generally quite funny but often grossly exaggerated, but I believe that the 
most recent Mac ads in the NY Times, which appeared as animated banners on 
the front page of the on-line edition, quoting reviews saying that Vista is 
a "technological blunder" and "requires a complete redo" are quite accurate.

Without wanting to sound like an apologist for Microsoft, Vista however is 
what everyone was wishing for (or demanding): a secure version of the 
Microsoft OS. Indeed, Vista could be described as "paranoia on steroids."

Jim Brust was writing earlier about how slow data transfers are from his USB 
drive to the PC, but now every orifice into the machine is intensively for all 
data injected into the machine to be sure that it doesn't carry worms, viruses, 
adware or malware of any sort, and this inherently makes it slow. It also kills a 
lot of processes that worked before.

I also agree with Roy Brown, having changed my mind, when he earlier said 
that he didn't see the situation changing with subsequent updates. This 
intense level of paranoia is part and parcel of the philosophical core of Vista, 
and the only way to make this level of security checking work on a practical 
basis is to wait until the 30 GHz PCs are available before installing the Vista OS 
or one of its progeny.

Coincidentally, at the same time as the initiation of this discussion, I had just 
begun writing autoupdate routines for our newest product, QCReports. After a 
week of discovering the rules of Vista, primarily by (highly irritating) trial and 
error, I've determined that our basic technique for automatically keeping our 
customers' machines up-to-date works exceptionally well for Windows 95, 98, 
Me, NT, and XP, but Vista blocks every attempt to allow an easy, invisible self-
install.

On one plane of existence, that's perfectly reasonable. Who knows what evil 
lurks in the mind of men and the software that they write? 

On another, it's a pain, thus we now measure the operating system version 
we're running on. If it's below Vista, we perform our updates quickly, easily 
and silently. On Vista, we simply put up an announcement saying that a new 
version is available and bring a webpage to the fore, requesting the user 
manually de-install and re-install their copy of QCReports, just as they did on 
the initial install.

If Microsoft was truly serious about security however, they wouldn't even let 
us do this. Rather, what they should have done is require us to go through an 
extensive (and expensive) certification program where not only we as an 
organization are intensively investigated as to our reliability and credibility, but 
one where our software is extensively scrubbed of all known threats and only 
allowed to be downloaded from one of Microsoft's own highly-secure corporate 
servers.

There is no such thing as too much security, and this last paragraph may 
unfortunately be the wave of the future. It's certainly in keeping with many of 
Microsoft's other recent initiatives.

Wirt Atmar

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