Hi Greg,

Speaking as a systems manager, I would have to say that if you need to
ask the list for reasons for needing manage.sys access then you probalbly
dont need it. If I was your sys admin, and I read this you'd be outta
there Monday : ).

John "Danager" Skelton

PS. Dont worry about the password dying with the data center staff,
its ALWAYS taped to the console : ).

> Our liaison from our data center asked why I need MANAGER.SYS access
> (their mid-range support are the only other people who can sign on as
> such; they are in another state with our 3Ks; I am the only other such
> user). Installing software and patches or handling backups is a
> non-issue. Other than them all going out to lunch in the same car, and
> getting hit by a bus, and me being the only one left alive who knows the
> password. Since one of them is subscribed (hi there), let me apologize
> for so unpleasant an example.
>
> While I am coming up with a small number things that I could not do or
> could only do with great difficulty with only AM ids, I would appreciate
> some feedback from the list. What could you not do that you need to do
> where you no longer able to sign on as manager.sys?
>
John "Danger" Skelton