Donna Garverick <[log in to unmask]> opines:
> and i'll add too fanatical....

Let's see....

fanatic n. One who is exaggeratedly zealous for a belief or cause. adj.
Overzealous in a cause.

Nope, there's none of those around here! :-)

> (you got email from carly, ted???)

As Wirt also alluded to....

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> i understand 'our' frustration but i just don't think that taking out an
ad is the
> right thing to do.  i really do think there would be a downside.  while we
may get
> all sorts of attention -- will it be the attention that we want?  i don't
think
> so.  i think we'd only manage to humiliate (corporate) hp...and like i
said before
> i don't think the result will be what we want.

Donna, were you around during the Boston Tea Party (I mean, were you
involved with HP3000 then)?  The frustration level today is nowhere near
what it was then.

> i'm surprised that no one has mentioned asking csy if there is anything we
could
> *collaboratively* do to help promote mpe.  csy certainly can/may say no,
but i
> think trying to work together -- towards the common goal of promoting
mpe -- will
> bring far superior results than being confrontational or
> unprofessional.              - d

You are right, of course.  Cooperation is always preferable to
confrontation.  However, some times you have to take a stand.  I think we
are approaching that time (again).  As for being unprofessional, that's a
mighty multi-faceted word with many connotations and many (subjective)
definitions.  I don't think the WSJ ad should be considered "unprofessional"
prima facie.  Besides, who ever said we were professional anyway! :-)

Having said all that, and as much as I disapprove of dsilva's methods, there
is a grain of truth to what he has to say:  There is absolutely nothing we
can do if HP is committed to the death of the HP3000.  We have neither the
time nor money to fight a battle on that level.  However to sit idly by and
do nothing is not in our best interests either.

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