At one time, I used to program in COBOL and RPGII at the same time...these 2
languages are as different from each other as you can get...both in syntax
considerations as well as logic constructs/processes, but as Greg points
out, 'programming is programming'.
Ray Shahan
"Life is what happens while you're busy making plans", John Lennon
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> What an interesting article, with some compelling contrarian opinions
> about
> several things in our industry. Section 8.1 "On-the-Job Learning, Not
> Formal
> Retraining, Is Best"
> (<http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.real.html#tth_sEc8.1>) has such
> nuggets
> as:
>
> The fact is that any competent programmer can pick up a new software skill
> on his/her own, on the job, without formal instruction... (By the way,
> contrary to the claim that most older programmers who have trouble finding
> work are old COBOL programmers, most of the ones who contact me are
> actually
> C programmers.) All that need be done is give the programmer (a) two or
> three books on Java, (b) a real Java project to work on, and (c) a Java
> resource person to contact as a last resort if some question is not
> answered
> in the Java books.
>
> and
>
> Those of us ``dinosaurs'' who have been programming since way back in the
> days of punched cards have heard claims of ``abrupt paradigm changes''
> many
> times as programming languages have evolved over the years. The claims
> have
> always simply been hype. Programming is programming is programming, and it
> has always been a straightforward matter to quickly become productive in a
> new language.
>
> Greg Stigers
> http://www.cgiusa.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Mc Coy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:38 AM
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> > Subject: Re: <<OT>> H1B revisited
> > Sensitivity: Confidential
> >
> > "Debunking The Myth Of A Desperate Labor Shortage"
> > http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.real.html
> >
> > Norm Matloff of UC Davis has been fighting this for a while
> > now. You can get involved by joining the Programmers Guild,
> > his email address is on the web site.
> >
> > Mainly, this amounts to nothing less than organized age
> > discrimination.
> >
> > jm
>
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