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Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:01:34 -0500
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Hi-   

You can only add/change devices 'Hot' if the OS booted with that ldev
alive previously. You better plan on rebooting the system. You can
attach the external tape unit to the 50-pin HD SE SCSI connector.  There
is such a connector on the Core IO, but it is the same bus as the
internal SE SCSI. Or, you might have a 28642A SE SCSI available in one
of the HP-PB slots. I have blown the safety fuses Hot Swapping devices
before...just to note. 

On second thought, IOCONFIG might work. But I have only used it on the
newer A and N class systems.

Good luck! 
 
 
Lawrence Kaufman
Systems Engineer / Analyst
Weltman, Weinberg & Reis Co., LPA
 

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of John Pitman
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 4:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] sysgen io info vs cstm->map info

Thanks for that detail, well worth having!

Another query...When we had a 928 at this site, its internal tape drive
died, and we sent up an external unit, and plugged it into the scsi
socket on the rear, configured it as ldev 8, and used that - on site
personnel really not up to opening the case and swapping internal drives
IMHO.

If this external unit is still on site (should be!), and its at least a
DDS2, and if there is an SE scsi socket on the rear of the system, we
should be able to plug it in there.....Looks like there are both SE and
FW SCSI sockets on the back.
If the drive was ldev 8, its scsi address WONT be 0, so it wouldn't
conflict.

Plugging it into a running system - would it be seen or not ? Does CSTM
MAP go out and look at everything ?
Cant hurt anything if connected while powered off, then powered on ? I
know have powered down external tapes , disconnected, reconnected and
powered up many times before without issue.

thanks

Regards,

John Pitman

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Kaufman, Larry
Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:53 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] sysgen io info vs cstm->map info

John-

1) Make sure he shows up with a Torx set. ;-)
2)  Make sure he does not bend any pins on the internal scsi ribbon
cable.
3) SCSI ID 0 on that DDS-3 : all jumpers open

Best regards,


Lawrence Kaufman
Systems Engineer / Analyst
Weltman, Weinberg & Reis Co., LPA


-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of John Pitman
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:17 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] sysgen io info vs cstm->map info

Thanks.
I am trying to avoid having to guide somebody with poor English through
ODE and mapper and back out again. I hope that if they install a new
drive and reboot, and can see the tape part no with same scsi address as
before , it should be good. I will also get them to test reading an old
tape, and writing a new one before tech leaves the scene....

Regards,

John Pitman


-----Original Message-----
From: Gilles Schipper [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, 7 November 2011 2:43 PM
To: John Pitman; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] sysgen io info vs cstm->map info

Those aren't ldev's that cstm is showing - they're simply numerical
instances.

The scsi address of ldev 7 is defintely 0 - as shown by sysgen and cstm.


At 10:33 PM 2011-11-06, John Pitman wrote:
>On one of our 959s, sysgen for tape drive shows:
>
>      io> ldev 7
>LDEV:     7  DEVNAME:                    OUTDEV:        0   MODE:
R
>    ID: HPC1537A                           RSIZE:       128   DEVTYPE:
TAPE
>  PATH: 10/4/20.0.0                        MPETYPE:      24
MPESUBTYPE:  7
>CLASS: TAPE
>
>But cstm->map shows:-
>
>     1  10                   Bus Adapter (580)
>     2  10/4                 Bus Adapter (500)
>     3  10/4/0               NIO LAN/Console Interface
>     4  10/4/16              100 BaseT LAN Interface (
>     5  10/4/20              NIO SCSI Interface (5)
>     6  10/4/20.0.0          SCSI Tape (HPC1537A)
>     7  10/4/20.2            Unknown ()
>     8  10/4/20.8.0          Unknown ()
>     9  10/4/20.9.0          Unknown ()
>    10  10/4/24              NIO Fast/Wide SCSI Interf
>    11  10/4/24.5.0          SCSI Disk (SEAGATEST39175
>    12  10/4/24.6.0          SCSI Disk (SEAGATEST39175
>
>Does this mean the SCSI address of the tape drive is 0, or 2 ? the 0
>addr shows on ldev 6, but 2 on ldev 7 ????
>
>I suspect the devnums on the left in cstm are wrong, as they list the
>discs at 11 and 12, not 1 and 2.
>Unfortunately the people replacing the dead dds3 drive are not famous
>for their knowledge of mpe, so I am trying to ensure they get it right
>first time. I hope just telling them to configure all dip switches same
>as old unit will work for us.
>
>Regards,
>
>John Pitman
>
>
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Gilles Schipper
GSA Inc.
HP System Administration Specialists
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