Erik already believes in ghosts, so I have no problem with him believing he
has
1) "overwhelming evidence of G-d"
2) a map of the "path of moral decay" (what's after bestiality?)
3) access to "God's view on the subject"

- Santa

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Connie Sellitto [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:30 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT: Enlightenment?
>
>
> In response to Fred, after Michael, after Bill after Erik...  since
> we're all expressing our personal views -
>
> Why is it that some would consider Erik's comments (which I happen to
> agree with...) to be coming from a 'closed mind', but their own minds
> are not open to even the possibility of a God?  It seems it's always
> easy to call someone of differing views 'closed-minded', but where's
> the openness on the part of the person who is labeling someone else?
> As others have noted, this is a matter of belief/convictions/opinions
> which have been shaped by our observations, environment, upbringing
> and personal experience.  Not something we'll ever all agree on.
>
> As to the charge that the 'religious right' seems to be always trying
> to 'convert' others to their belief system - it doesn't really matter
> to an agnostic if I believe in God/eternity/afterlife or not (as long
> as I don't share my views too vocally...) but if you truly believe
> that there is a God and a hereafter of eternal bliss or torment,
> wouldn't you wish to have everyone spared that punishment, and share
> in that glory?  Simple everyday example - if I believe there's a
> danger of becoming seriously ill from eating uncooked meat, and I saw
> you about to put a raw hamburger into your mouth, don't you think I'd
> warn you, in no uncertain terms?  If you then chose to eat it anyway,
> so be it.  But the Christian has a duty not only to warn others to
> 'Flee the wrath to come', but to spread the 'Good News' - that there
> is a remedy for humankind's lost condition - Jesus Christ, the only
> Saviour.
>
> Have a good Thanksgiving.
> Connie
>
> >Approved-By: fred White <[log in to unmask]>
> >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:06:09 -0700
> >
> >On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 09:43 AM, Michael Baier wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:18:00 -0600, Erik Vistica
> >><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Bill Shanks wrote:
> >>>If you choose to not believe in gravity and respect it, you will
> >>>eventually have unpleasant consequences.
> >>>
> >>>If you choose to not believe in electricity and touch a
> live outlet,
> >>>you
> >>>will have unpleasant consequences.
> >>>
> >>>Your choice to ignore the overwhelming evidence for God does not
> >>>change
> >>>reality.
> >>
> >>Erik,
> >>what if it turns out, that god=allah=Buddah=jehovah
> >>what if god is a black or asian or even mexican FEMALE and not that
> >>nice
> >>picture of a blonde, bearded caucasian male with blue eyes?
> >>and all these books were written by some humans and who were nothing
> >>but
> >>fiction-writers? former L.Ron hubbard's, maybe ????
> >>What an idea ;-) but who knows.
> >>
> >>
> >>Michael
> >
> >Such highly plausible possibilities are rejected by closed minds.
> >
> >Give it up. :-))
> >
> >FW
> >
>
>
> --
> cs/CFA
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