Re:

> OK, to the naysayers, fencesitters, and even advocates.  I have spent
> considerable time during the week with the folks from Client
> Systems/3kworld.com on various issues.  Allow me to interject with some
...

> 1.  3kworld.com is the brainchild and put together by Client Systems.  Yes,
> Client Systems is a "for profit" entity, as is 3kworld.com.  One cannot operate
...
> 2.  It is just like any other portal - it is funded by advertisers.  WRQ, HP,
...

I've said nothing publically about 3kworld.com until now (I wasn't a naysayer,
fencesitter, or advocate...simply oblivious :), but I would like
to point out one pair of facts and one obvious caution:

   3kworld.com is owned by Client Systems.

   Client Systems is the only official HP 3000 distributor for the US (and Canada?).

The caution:

   This means that HP could, *in theory*, have a big lever to use in a *possible*
   attempt to control a group of users.

I'm not saying that I think anything "bad" has happened, will happen,
or is likely to happen! ...just that we need to be observant (more so
than 75% of Interex members are), and we need to keep HP3000-L independant.

"The price of liberty is eternal vigilance" ... that applies to user groups as
well as to countries.


[Aside: it's interesting trying to find accurate quote attributions on the web.
I find one site claiming that John Stuart Mills said "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance",
another saying that abolitionist Wendell Phillips (1811-1844) said
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" (which in turn was paraphrased from
John Philpot Curran (see http://www.freedom.simplenet.com/vigil.htm).  Another site
simply said "from the Jefferson memorial".]

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