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Hi, Tom

Some scientist say Mass of universe divide by Life of Universe is equal to
Mass of Earth dived by 144 Hours(6 Days), In here, Time is relative by
Mass. 

Atomic clock in Colorado is differ than Atomic Clock in Greenwich,
or famous Atomic clock test by Navy in Sixty, test atomic clock around
earth, one airplane gain 270ns(west) the other loose 59ns(East) .

And time is Quantise too.
For example no smaller unit of time less than 10 ** - 43 Second,
It is Digital not Analog, Digital mean some creator create this property.
Not  by accident.

Sub Atomic Level every thing is Paradox...

No one understand Quantum Mechanic, 
But everything is base on this. 

We just got the wrong text book to learn.

Sorry,
More Question than Answer

Peter C.
>>> Tom Hula <[log in to unmask]> 12/08/99 10:14AM >>>
Roy Brown wrote:

> But interestingly, the 'big' questions which you ask above are actually
> scientific ones, and have (or are capable of having) scientific answers.
>
> >Where did life come from originally
>
> Any suitable patch of warm mud...
>
> > and who started up this great big universe
>
> It was a spontaneous quantum event in which the entire universe exploded
> out of nothingness - the 'Big Bang'. Quantum mechanics is like that.
>
> It could happen again at any time, anywhere, without warning, so watch
> where you are standing.....
>
> >and why am I here?
>
> You are a tower of meat acting as a protective coating for your genes,
> which are trying to reproduce, as they are chemically programmed to do.
> Any behaviour you may exhibit which is not to do with your own survival,
> or the survival of your near and dear ones, is a mere emergent property
> of this. E.g. programming, consciousness, liking sushi...
>
> Now, you may be outraged by this, and prefer to believe that God created
> the universe in 4004 BC, burying dinosaur bones as a test for the
> faithful, breathing life into Adam and Eve, and that we are here to see
> how we go on, so that afterwards we can be appropriately sent to Heaven
> or Hell.
>
> You may very well be right - God could certainly make things look like
> that. If He did, then he also left the radiation that the Kobe project
> found, as a further test for the faithful, and a few other more subtle
> things. (I often idly speculate - if an HP3000 was intelligent, had a
> system crash and a warm reboot, would it *know* it had failed, or would
> its memories look like an unbroken run of uptime?)
>
> (And interestingly, scientists now think that there *was* an Eve - in
> the sense that we are all descended from a single female who lived
> somewhere in central Africa a ways back. It's all to do with
> mitochondrial DNA).

Actually, I don't believe that the Earth was created a few thousand years ago.
We have a record that is just as convincing as the rings inside a tree.  But your
responses are an example of the sort of thing I am talking about.  If I am trying
to deduce what meaning my life has, there's no way to answer the question
with facts.  A lot can be said from a scientific point of view about how our bodies
work and how they are programmed and even a lot about our behavior.  But my
desire to transcend these "facts" and discover who the Programmer is . . .
science isn't even concerned with the question.  Yet there is a faction that would
like to take the discoveries of science and deduce that there is no God.  There
is nothing in the facts themselves to come to that conclusion, so it must be
something inside of us.  Possibly the very same thing that causes us to desire
transcendence in the first place.  Thus, it becomes a use of science to answer
a religious question.  Just as inappropriate as using the Bible as a scientific
textbook, which it was never intended to be.

But perhaps we should just drop the subject.  You are welcome to your point
of view and I will keep mine.

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        Tom Hula
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