At 12:15 PM 9/18/2003, [log in to unmask] wrote:
>Shawn writes:
>
> > Yea dammit - why the hell didn't we just let all those people continue to
> >  be tortured.
>
>That's a fairly disingenuous statement, only made worse by the fact that it
>was said knowingly so. The United States has almost certainly killed and
>maimed
>more Iraqis during the last decade than did Saddam Hussein's government.

I'm having a lot of trouble reconciling that with reality.

>As I wrote months ago, it was reasonably clear from the evidence that was
>produced during the drumbeat for war that Iraq had no weapons of mass
>destruction, that Iraq had been weakened to the point that it was not a
>threat to its
>neighbors -- and it was certainly not a threat to us -- and that it had no
>connection to Al Queda or the events of 9/11.

WMD comment is in stark contrast to what every government and the UN itself
has said for the last 12 years.  I don't really care if Iraq was colluding
with Al Queda or not on 9/11, we do know that Al Queda did have bases of
operations in Iraq and Iraq has had and used WMD's in the past and there is
little doubt they would have pursued them in the future.  I'm just stunned
at the timeline liberals are insisting that things become resolved in Iraq,
the pace with which change is taking effect in Iraq is light years beyond
what took place in Germany and Japan after WWII.


>This was a purely an elective war, a war of pre-emption, with no visible
>threat to pre-empt, thus it was clearly an immoral war. It was a war
>concocted by
>a group dedicated to transforming the face of the Middle East in order to
>make
>Israel safer, but that reason was never mentioned to the American people
>except in the most oblique way, and this obscure agenda the fundamental
>underlying
>reason why the explanations that were given for our going to war were so
>fluid and consistently made so little sense.

These things are all your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to have
one, but you seem to be pontificating from a peculiar point of prejudice
that I'm having trouble reconciling.



> > Nice that Blix is able to make such definitive statements in
> > a complete vacuum of information to support it.
>
>If there is one person on the planet most qualified to make those definitive
>statements, it is Hans Blix.

The man is a goof, with his own agenda (staying employed).  I've never
witnessed such a bungling of an operation as his keystone cops, other than
watching Clinton blow up asprin factories so people would stop talking
about his hummers in the oval office hall ways.


>Wirt Atmar


Regards,

Shawn Gordon
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