Would another option be to provision a small HP3000 and attached tape
drives at your company, and do a remote backup from the other site to
the small 3000?

On 5/17/07, Donna Hofmeister <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> for your 9000s you can probably move forward with your plans....provided you're on relatively new/powerful/updated boxes.  there is sufficient hw/sw to make what you're wanting to do doable.  it probably just boils down to how much money your willing to spend.
>
> for your 3000s it's a different story (imo).  yes, you can implement some sort of remote console solution (i'd suggest you find my post from earlier in the week about SWC!).  but tapes are *always* going to present a challenge.
>
> you mentioned "there is someone at the facility who can physically interact with the servers when requested".  this is probably the only way to move your 3000s -- to have them do your tape handling.  the n-class boxes are effectively/potentially the only mpe systems with enough horsepower to attempt a network backup.  *but* the lack of a gigabit network card really makes true networked backups impractical.  you *might* be able to do some kind of store-to-disc...ftp that file to (say) a unix system....but it takes planning to really make this work (not to mention sufficient disc space).
>
> another consideration is how well your company is adhereing to good change management.  without excellent change management -- and with giving up direct control of your servers -- i'm afraid you'll find yourself in a mess fast.
>
> i already mentioned the need to spend money on this project.  you need to look at both short- and long-term costs plus the loss of in-house corporate knowledge.  your human resources are not just a cost -- they're also a (huge) benefit.            - d
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Sprowls <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:44:59 AM
> Subject: [HP3000-L] Oursourced Remote Data Center
>
>
> We are considering outsourcing our data center to a national company with a
> tier four location across town.  Bandwidth from our location to the data center
> would be quite substantial, using NPLS.  Implementing the Windows
> environment would be pretty straightforward, as most anything can be done
> via Remote Desktop, and there is someone at the facility who can physically
> interact with the servers when requested.  I was wondering if any of you have
> experience doing something like this with HP3000's (and HP9000's).
>
> My two main areas of concern are the consoles and attached tape drives.  We
> should be able to set up remote console to handle the consoles.  However the
> tape drives do present a problem, with several solutions, each of which will
> involve some investment.  Option 1 would be to buy tape libraries which we
> could periodically load.  Option 2 would be to buy a third party backup solution
> which can work across the network.  Option 3 would be to use some sort of
> ISCSI device to back up across the network.
>
> If any of you have done something like this and have experiences to share, it
> would be much appreciated.  Any recommendations for remote backup
> solutions would also be very helpful. Thanks in advance for your replies.
>
> Mark Sprowls
> Vice President
> Quadax, Inc. (440)777-6300
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