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January 2002, Week 3

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My previous employer fell into this category 650 people and 3 in computer
services running 24x7x365.
The company is in the process of closing down all but 2 employees have been
axed, and of course they know nothing about the 3000 except how to run the
reports and do inquiries. This machine has been running since the end of may
with no computer staff, backup, etc, just humming allong for the last 8
months. Well it finally stopped working, the culpret a storm that knocked
out the power for 5 hours.It took me about 10 minutes to reboot and now it
is running again for god knows how long.
I am really curious as to how long it will keep working....if it EVER dies I
let you guys know.
Gary Nolan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ric Merz" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Mr. Winston Prather


> This is what separates the men from the boys.  Small companies will change
> the way they do things to facilitate using a software package (no source,
> usually PC sized).  Where as larger companies tend to find an 80%
softwqare
> fit, then customize to their business (mini/mainframe).
>
> The HP-3000 is perfect for the business that wants to do things their way.
>
> Very little need for systems administration.  Just a small group (~5)
> programmers (usually Cobol) creating applications for the business.  I
have
> seen this business model in many shops.
>
> Ric
>
> At 02:46 PM 1/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Customers.... but for how long?  This stuff about application packages is
> >all well and good (well, not all well and good, but that's another
> >story)... but what in the heck is the ramification to the many, many
shops
> >which have developed vast libraries of custom applications?  You may well
> >be able to fit a package to a common and standard business
entity/practice,
> >but the investment in those applications which distinguish one business
> >from another must be partially re-spent to port the code and data
> >structures to some other less effective environment, or worse must be
> >entirely scrapped and re-written.  This is a wretched economy in which to
> >have to re-invent the wheel!  I suspect that the vendors which will
profit
> >from the demise of the 3k will not be HP or whatever remains post this
> >merger mess.
> >How does one achieve the synergies and the resilience that comes from the
> >interaction and inter-dependencies of Image, Transact, Adager, MPEX, etc
in
> >ANY other environment????  Oh my, retirement is not close enoough!
> >
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