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Having grown-up in the auto parts business in the northern US, a 
'fender' was a reference to the encloses or covers the wheels, or 
basically the outer covering of the wheel well on the vehicle.  I 
believe the English refer to it as a 'wing'.  At times, and in the parts 
business, this was also referred to as a 'quarter panel', but most of 
the time as right front fender, or left rear fender, etc.....  and that 
how they were listed in the manufacture's parts catelog.    The same is 
true when we worked on the
old Model-T/Model-As:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170375

2-wheel bicycles also had wheel covers referred to as 'fenders'.... so 
I'm unfamiliar with how front/rear bumpers on cars could have been 
referred to as a vehicle's fender.. yet bikes had wheel covers called 
'fenders'....


Heasman, David wrote:
> Seems clear enough to me. 
> Roy makes a number of unlinked points -
>
> a) Although the American word for the strip of chrome and plastic
> attached to the front and back of a car is a "fender", the everso witty
> stickers attached to them are called "bumper stickers". An anomaly;
> innocently amusing.
>
> b) The fenders on certain cars aren't very robust. The addition of a
> sticker may increase the fender's strength noticeably. The url links to
> a crash test of a not-very-robust fender on a not-very-robust vehicle.
>
> c) "Fender" is also the name of a manufacturer of electric guitars. Roy
> named a couple of their models.
>
>  These three points are what I would countenance as "innocent jokes". 
>  They're whimsical, they make no ideological claims, they're rendered
> slightly precious by extended exegesis. 
>
>  I like explaining innocent jokes; it makes them much more amusing and I
> never feel that a 
>  request for clarification has a hidden motive.
>
>
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Denys Beauchemin
> Sent: 01 April 2008 13:26
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT:NEWEST AMERICAN BUMPER STICKERS
>
>
> I have to say this thread has been mystifying me for a while.  Roy, if
> you were aiming for "obscure posting meant to puzzle everyone," you have
> succeeded at least with me.  I must confess, I have no idea what you are
> trying to convey in your message.
>
> And while we are at it, Gehan what do you mean by "We need to do
> something"? About what?
>
> Denys
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Roy Brown
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:33 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT:NEWEST AMERICAN BUMPER STICKERS
>
> Bumper sticker for the Nissan Navara:
> 'Free with this sticker: twice the crash protection'
>
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>
> NB: We Brits call 'em bumpers so 'bumper stickers' is logical. But you 
> Yanks call 'em fenders. So why not 'fender stickers'?
>
> Though maybe a fender sticker would have to say something like 
> 'Stratocaster' or 'Precision Bass'?
>
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