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Depending on the tool used to sort the file, yes this would have destroyed
the file labels. Suprtool OUTPUT=INPUT appears to retain the labels. But any
other format of OUTPUT would remove the user labels. As would text then keep
in Qedit (unless /TEXT filename, LABELS was used). It has been so long since
I used SORT/3000 I can not remember what it does with user labels.

-----Original Message-----
From: Harrington, Don [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:18 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] 3000 File Code List


I'm beginning to think that the original file was a subfile, but this is a
SORTed version of it.  Would that cause the file labels to disappear?

Thanks,
Don Harrington
Sr. Systems Analyst
Facilities Applications Support
Shared Services Group
The Boeing Company
P.O. Box 3707 M/C 2R-32  NEW!
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
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-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:15 AM
To: Harrington, Don
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] 3000 File Code List



Don,

What makes the file a PH subfile is not the filecode per say.  It is the
presence of user labels with the 'proper' structure (I performed a test
where I changed the filecode of a subfile to '0' and 'quiz' had no trouble
in accessing it).

I have a program that 'dumps out' the user labels of a file in "hex" and
"ascii" that you could use to verify the existence of user labels and also
see the PH version used to create the file (See sample below).

Regards
Paul Christidis





Could be.  I'll need to look and see how it was created.  Well, at least my
memory hasn't totally faded, yet!  :-)

Thanks,
Don Harrington
Sr. Systems Analyst
Facilities Applications Support
Shared Services Group
The Boeing Company
P.O. Box 3707 M/C 2R-32  NEW!
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(v) 206-544-5679  NEW!  (f) 206-544-5788  NEW! (p) 206-797-6360

The opinions expressed in this e-mail reflect those of the sender.  They do
not necessarily reflect the opinions of The Boeing Company unless
specifically stated otherwise.



-----Original Message-----
From: Heasman, David [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:02 AM
To: 'Harrington, Don'; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] 3000 File Code List


Maybe it's a subfile that can't be read by Quiz 8.19, but can be read by
Quiz 6.09?


-----Original Message-----
From: Harrington, Don [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 22 March 2002 17:52
To: 'Heasman, David'; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] 3000 File Code List


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David;

My apologies.  I stated that more forcefully than I intended.  I SHOULD
have
said:

It doesn't APPEAR to be a subfile.

Q U I Z   (PowerHouse  8.19.C3)
Copyright 1998 COGNOS INCORPORATED
Boeing Shared Services
Temporary license expires 20-FEB-2003.

> ACCESS *DATA1
*E* The existing file is not a subfile.
> E

END OF PROGRAM
SITE149,PUB.PROD: LISTF DATA1,2
ACCOUNT=  PROD        GROUP=  PUB

FILENAME  CODE  ------------LOGICAL RECORD-----------  ----SPACE----
                  SIZE  TYP        EOF      LIMIT R/B  SECTORS #X MX

DATA1     644     110B  FA        2554       2554  72     1104  1 19

Don Harrington
Sr. Systems Analyst
Facilities Applications Support
Shared Services Group
The Boeing Company
P.O. Box 3707 M/C 2R-32  NEW!
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(v) 206-544-5679  NEW!  (f) 206-544-5788  NEW! (p) 206-797-6360

The opinions expressed in this e-mail reflect those of the sender.  They do
not necessarily reflect the opinions of The Boeing Company unless
specifically stated otherwise.



-----Original Message-----
From: Heasman, David [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:42 AM
To: 'Harrington, Don'; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] 3000 File Code List


 It is a PH subfile - see -


TST6020A  644     556B  FA          20      50000  11      112  1 32    14
14

%quiz
Q U I Z  (6.09.C)       Level 140
Copyright 1990 COGNOS INCORPORATED

> acc *tst6020a
> go



Records selected:  20

 There was a funny little book by Eugene Volokh called "The Truth About
Disc
Files"
 wasn't there? That had all the types in. At least, all the types there
were
then..


-----Original Message-----
From: Harrington, Don [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

  In particular, what is a 644 file?
I thought it was a PowerHouse subfile, but QUIZ says it's not.

TIA,


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