John Dunlop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>I know there has been some discussion about this before but I have been
>unable to find answers in the Archives.
>
>Maybe someone can help.  We have a system with a user limit of 100 users
>configured. We have a problem that many users who used to have one
>session on a terminal, now have a PC and use multiple sessions (quite
>legitimately). However, we sometimes reach the limit where at 96
>sessions shown, it doesn't allow any more sessions to log on.
>
>What I would like to know :
>
> 1. I know there is a reason that only 96 instead of 100 sessions can be
>logged on but I forget why.
>
> 2. How can I tell which users haven't used their terminals for , say 8
>hours, although they have left them on?
>
> 3. Is there anything in the Contributed Library etc that anyone can
>recommend?
>
> 4. Does the CITIMEOUT in the coniguration work as advertised or can it
>lead to problems?
>
> 5. How can you tell which users have been logged on for over a week?
>
>TIA,
>
>Cheers,
>
>John Dunlop
>
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Here is a document that shows what counts.

I think the console counts as one user but if the console is not logged on but
you have reached the limit, you can still signon the console.

This is a copy of a document that I received from HP, the revision date is
7/31/96.  Any typos are mine...
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A "user" is defined as the presence of an open terminal.  The user limit is
therefore a limit on the number of concurrent terminal opens.  Only the first
open will be counted in the case of multiple opens of the same device.  More
specifically, when an open is requested on an unknown device with a profile of
type terminal and it is NOT the physical console the user count will be
incremented during device allocation.

The user count is nearly equal to "session numbers", if a batch job opens
terminals programatically, it is included as "user" even if it is controlled
by batch job.  The user license applies to the number of logged-on users
rather than the actual number of physical workstation connections.  An FOPEN
or HPFOPEN which accesses a terminal device counts toward the HPUSERLIMIT.
This includes VT/PAD connections and jobs which open terminals for I/O.

There are two predefined global variables used by the command interpreter
which track the user limit and count.  These variables are HPUSERLIMIT and
HPUSERCOUNT.

Please note that the physical console will always be available and will NOT
count toward the user limit.

Details of what count toward the user limit are:
1. A user logon from a terminal, PC or workstation is counted when using one
of the following connections:
o DTC direct connection
o DTC modem connection
o LAN (PC only)
o NS virtual terminal (Pt-toPt, LAN, X.25)
o X.25
o PBX
o PAD
o Statistical Multiplexer

2. An application which calls HPFOPEN or FOPEN on a terminal other than its
own will increment the user limit for each additional terminal opened.

Does NOT count directly toward the user limit:
1. The physical console will always be available and will NOT count toward the
user limit.

2. Sessions have not been used to keep track of the user limit since some
applications can initiate multiple sessions for a single user.

3. Jobs do not typically count toward the user limit unless the job is running
an application which is opening a terminal.

4. Processes do not directly relate to the user limit because it is possible
for a single process to HPFOPEN multiple terminals.  As well as a single user
can run an application that creates multiple processes.

5. Remote applications which do not establish a virtual terminal do not count
toward the user limit.  A common example of this is Remote File Access.  A
user performing a dscopy with the logon option doesn't count.

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I hope this helps whomever was looking for it.
Roger Smith,  Application Manager
Tulare County Office of Education
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