http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007399.html#119570
Has some neat comments too : -
"Even better than this being a transitional form? It was a fossil that
was predicted. "
"Won't change their minds. They'll say it's a fake. Or that it was put
there by God to test our Faith. Or worse, it was put there by the Foul
Deceiver to undermine said Faith."
But this one brings me joy :-
"Won't change their minds. They'll say it's a fake.
So maybe that means they won't have to deal with it; but they're just
begging to have their kids suffer a catastrophic loss of faith when they
discover that it's demonstrably not a fake. You can only go so far in
inculcating denial. Beyond that, the person has to want to deny the
evidence.
Or that it was put there by God to test our Faith.
God Almighty is infinite truth and light, but the God we deal with here
on earth is lying to us? Doesn't that make them some unpleasant variety
of Gnostic?
Also, could they please explain what other apparently solid data is
eligible to be dismissed in that fashion? Yes? And how they can tell the
difference? One step past that point in any direction, they'll fall into
"some parts of creation are More Real than others": a muddy, fetid
philosophical swamp that breeds errors by the swarm.
"What do we know, and how do we know that we know it?": There's a reason
it's a classic.
Or worse, it was put there by the Foul Deceiver to undermine said Faith.
Ooooookay, so Satan is a creative force, and had a hand in the creation
of the world? That can't be anything but Manichaeanism: a recurrent
Christian heresy, explicitly rejected as doctrine by all the major
denominations.
There's your real problem with Creationism: it's incompatible with
Christianity."
-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Larry Barnes
Sent: 06 April 2006 19:50
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Evolutionary Missing Link
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Bruce,
Just give it some time and let the story spread. Remember the old game
of telephone or telegraph, where you whisper something in your neighbors
ear then they do the same until "the something" comes back around to
you.
Well the story is now spreading and in a short time the news will pick
it up and 'quote' a reliable source who heard from someone else that
this is proof positive; the missing link.
Then we will have to waste time retracing the "who said what to who" to
find where the "link" started breaking down.
It's an interesting discovery and only that. If the paleontologists
would remove their blinders and not chase a smoking gun, more truth my
come forward from this discovery.
Blinders have a way of distorting facts. It happens all the time in
almost all professions.
-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Bruce Collins
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:22 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Evolutionary Missing Link
I can't find in the article where they call it "the missing link that
proves evolution". The closest I can find is that it "gives the clearest
glimpse yet of the evolutionary moment when fish fins transformed into
limbs and species began to move onto land."
The "Evolutionary Missing Link" subject was mine. I wasn't referring
specifically to the missing link between modern man and their
predecessors but this other link between land animals and the earlier
water animals which is also one of the evolutionary gaps that people who
disagree with Darwin's theory like to point out.
Bruce
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From: "Jim Mc Coy" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Evolutionary Missing Link
> Actually, it has everything to do with pre-humans and previous bone
> fragments because they are calling it the missing link that proves
> evolution. Which is a ridiculous statement.
>
> jm
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> From: "Bruce Collins" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Evolutionary Missing Link
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>
>> Shawn Gordon wrote:
>>> I'm with you Jim, they make so many crazy extrapolations. One thing
I
>>> notice about these discovery articles is they never mention what
method
>>> they used to date this stuff, I'd really like to know myself.
>>>
>>> Here is what I'd really like to see, and maybe Wirt knows where one
is
>>> since he is up on this stuff. I'd like to see a global map that
shows
>>> where various pre-humans have been found, the number of intact
skeletons
>>> for that branch or whatever else was used to make the determination.
>>> I've heard stories of a jaw bone being found 5 miles from an arm and
>>> then that is used to determine homo-interuptus or something as a
whole
>>> new pre-homo sapien.
>>
>> Of course this article has nothing to do with pre-humans or bone
>> fragments. This was a fossil find and "Within two weeks, they
uncovered
>> three nearly complete specimens of the ancient creature."
>>
>> For information on the accuracy of fossil dating you could try
google,
>> which turned up this page:
>>
>> http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/benton.html
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