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Per Ford Motor Company's Corporate Systems Manual section 2.4.25: "the
opinions expressed in the article are the opinions of the author, not of
Ford Motor Company. "
"Art Bahrs" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
news:3db80b4b@skycache-news.fidnet.com...
> Hi Michael and All :)
>      I want to recommend everyone go to the "Transition Tour" if at all
> possible.... I can't make it but.... a few months ago I had to pleasure to
> attend a session where Birket (The "B" in M.B. Foster hehe) presented on
> the aspects of a migration... I learned alot of stuff and he really did
> show me that even tho' I have done a couple of migrations over the years
it
> doesn't hurt to get help from the experts... now Birket is really an
expert
> on this stuff... and can really help open your "C" level's eyes to the
> realities of the migration timeline...
>
>    Also, Rich Trapp (who will be at the Houston show!) has provided me a
> lot of info on Migrations.... and will be representing (sorta ... hehe) a
> company that has lots of knowledge (hey.... hire 'em... maybe they will
> need to hire me then!!!)   and BTW .... Food gets you all kinds of help
> from Rich... especially a "Keystone Pepperoni Pizza" hehehe
>
>    Even if you have already decided to stay on MPE you owe it to your
> company to research what the options are... and to learn about what others
> having to do...Also, there should be some really great "monitor toys"
being
> given away!!! Anyone want to send me some of 'em? hehe
>
>    Remember, one of the axioms of leadership is to always gather input and
> recommendations on all command decisions as time warrants...
>
> Art "Not employed by either company!!!  so this ain't a sales pitch ! hehe
> " Bahrs
> P.S. If you need a hand on your migration.... gimme a holler!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Anderson" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] A Recommendation
>
>
> > I'm probably going to the "Transition Tour" here in Houston on the 14th,
> > and like you, even after reading your post, I don't have very high
> > expectations. Mainly because of that "Wheelbarrow" full of money. I know
> > that this migration forced on us by HP in not cheap, actually very
> > expensive. Additionally, after the migration (If you choose to migrate)
> > your TCO is going up also. Once Migrated to HP-UX, you will need a
> > minimum of two HP-UX boxes for each 3000 box that you currently have,
> > and then don't forget the extra staff require also. So when you go
> > shopping for that wheelbarrow, make sure you get the extended warrantee
> > on it, because you'll be making many trip to the CFO's office with it.
> >
> > Stay on M.P.E., with 3rd party support. It's not just going to save you
> > money, but 10 years from now there will be many more attractive
> > migrations paths in front of you.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Anderson
> > Spring Independent School District
> > 16717 Ella Boulevard
> > Houston, Texas 77090-4299
> > office: 281.586.1105
> > fax: 281.586.1187
> > -
> >
> > >>> John Clogg <[log in to unmask]> 10/23/02 01:34PM >>>
> > Listers:
> > The HP "Transition Tour" made its first stop yesterday in Spokane,
> > Washington.  I attended, but didn't have high expectations.  I have
> > been
> > disappointed in the webcasts offered to date, for their lack of useful
> > and/or new content, and I was expecting more of the same.  I was
> > pleasantly
> > surprised.  I found the event to be very informative and eye-opening.
> > The
> > "Platinum Partners" who are participating in the tour have obviously
> > worked
> > hard to develop a program that is meaningful and helpful.  I was also
> > impressed by the limited amount of self-promotion (read sales pitch) by
> > the
> > partners.  I recommend this event to anyone living in or near one of
> > the
> > stops.
> >
> > More importantly, I recommend that you take your boss.  CIOs, and maybe
> > even
> > CFOs need to hear at least the morning sessions.  If you are planning
> > to
> > migrate you will soon be walking into your CFO's office with a
> > wheelbarrow
> > and asking him/her to fill it up with money (large denominations only,
> > please).  These sessions will help them to understand the scope of the
> > effort you are about to undertake.  For those who intend to homestead,
> > this
> > event will help explain the effort and expense you are avoiding, thus
> > helping to justify your decision.  For those whose companies are
> > dragging
> > their feet in the planning and funding of a migration project, this
> > will
> > help light a fire under them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Clogg
> >
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