OK I tend to see the current US Administration's deeds from a little far
away ... Old Europe, that is .... but let me please sum up things according
to a common perception here :
1) The current US Administration asserted Irak and Saddam Hussein had WMDs
by the shipload, and were maintaining an extensive WMD program. So far, not
a single trace of a single WMD has been found
2) The current US Administration maintained (and still maintains) there is
(was) a link between Al-Qaida (sp?) and Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq. So
far, not a single piece of evidence has been found of such a link.
3) While the current US Administration, to the best of my knowledge, and as
Denys correctly said, never asserted that there was a direct link between
9/11 and Saddam's infamous regime, they attacked Iraq unilaterally, without
a UN mandate (1441 is precisely NOT a clear UN mandate). This attitude is
disgraceful. If it only damaged the current US Administration's prestige
abroad, the account would most likely be easily settled some time in early
November. The thing is, it damages the remaining superpower's prestige.
This, too, is a disgrace, and not a service to the American population.
4) Now, if the US Vice President uses one of the unprintable words and makes
it without even a slap on the wrist, how do I explain my kids that they have
to choose their words carefully ? Is that an example to use unprintable
words ? I remember a former US President being blasted (and almost
impeached) for clearly inappropriate deeds within the White House. Should
you Americans consider impeaching Vice President Cheney for using
inappropriate language ?
5) As a European, I do not vote in the US Elections. So I tend to hold no
real political interest in the coming US Election. As such, I am not
involved in Cheney-blasting contests.
Still, I do not like the idea of an official using foul language. This is a
disgrace.
Thanks for listening,
Christian
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]De la
> part de Denys Beauchemin
> Envoye : vendredi 2 juillet 2004 06:53
> A : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : Re: [HP3000-L] OT:Cheney Utters 'F-Word' in U.S. Senate
>
>
> Vice President Dick Cheney has maintained for a long time now
> that there
> exists a link between Saddam Hussein's erstwhile regime and Al Qaeda.
> He has never denied saying so and recently corrected the 9/11
> commission
> staffers who put out an interim report stating there was no credible
> information of a link. The 9/11 commission staffers were wrong. The
> commissioners themselves, who did not write the report,
> backed away from
> that interim report at an astonishing speed.
>
> The evidence has been mounting rapidly and supports the
> administration's
> and Dick Cheney's contention of the existence of a long term link
> between pre-liberation Iraq and Al Qaeda. To persist, in the face of
> mounting evidence, in denying the existence of such a link is simply
> ludicrous and makes one wonder why some people can't face reality.
>
> The denial on the part of Dick Cheney that Yosef talks about,
> has to do
> with the contention expounded by some people in the press, but not
> President Bush or Vice-President Cheney or the administration in
> general, that Iraq was behind 9/11. Nobody in the administration has
> ever said that Iraq was behind 9/11, however many people have
> incorrectly attributed such to the administration. One can only guess
> at those people's motives.
>
> I trust this explains the situation.
>
>
> Denys
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Yosef Rosenblatt
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 9:50 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] OT:Cheney Utters 'F-Word' in U.S. Senate
>
> I am neither offended nor surprised by Mr. Cheney's choice of words. I
> personally have eschewed the use of obscene language but do adhere to
> the
> principle, "F***'em if they can't take a joke." If Mr. Cheney
> chooses to
> speak in this manner it is his right to do so.
>
> I do feel it is right and fitting to ask Mr. Cheney a simple question,
> "Do
> you kiss your valued family with that mouth?" You can't play "Mr.
> Morality"
> one minute and then act like a "sinner" in the next. You
> can't claim the
> high ground and wallow in the gutter. This is especially true
> when, like
> Mr.
> Cheney, you don't cut anyone else any slack.
>
> Speaking of Mr. Cheney speaking, I have a bigger problem with
> his words
> than
> whether or not they are one of the seven banned words. My problem is
> with
> his saying things over and over and then denying having ever said them
> and
> then saying them again. Case in point the connection between Saddam
> Hussein'
> s regime and Al Qaideh. He has repeatedly stated,
> unequivocally that the
> link exists. When asked to justify the statement he denies ever having
> made
> it. This is unfortunately just one example of Mr. Cheney's tendency to
> treat
> the American public as if they are too stupid to understand him or see
> the
> fallacy of his logic. (My years as a classroom teacher lead me to call
> this
> " The Vice Principal Syndrome.")
>
> Maybe he is right. Maybe we as a nation are too stupid. Maybe like
> little
> kittens we are more fascinated by the ball of tin foil than we are by
> things
> of substance. While America was in such an uproar over Janet Jackson's
> breast an even younger young woman was making human pyramids
> with naked
> Iraqis. Mr. Cheney would have you believe they deserve this treatment
> because they are bad. If they weren't bad they wouldn't be in jail;
> where
> there's smoke there's is fire. With Mr. Cheney where there's smoke
> there's
> mirrors.
>
> As Little Newt Hoenikker put it, "No damn cat and no damn cradle."
>
> Pray For Peace,
> Yosef
>
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