Perhaps there's something I don't understand about all this.

How is it possible to replace two HP3000's, probably supporting
hundreds of logged on users, with one box(doesn't really matter
what, in this case NT) that is only accessible via remote
connections?

That is, I presume users won't be telnetting to the box and
running applications, rather that, the box is a database server and
the new application is client/server. Are there other options?  (I'm
interested as we are hearing(again) the whiff of such developments
here)

Questions that come to mind(outside of database issues) are:
- what of the increased load on clients(ie PCs)? What's good for
telnetting isn't good enough for big C/S programs.
- what about all those jobs that ran on the server, is there an
application server hidden in the cost there somewhere?
- what of OLTP. It's really hard to get anything as fast as server
based programs

Kevin Mullins, I'd be interested in to know if these concerns apply
in your case and what was the info you provided.

Also, any ideas on where to find out more about this topic?

Bob


On 23 Aug 99 at 12:11, Newman, Kevin: wrote:

> Kevin,
> Unless your application is either very small or extremely efficient, I
> would try to hold on to those HP3000 boxes until well after the cutover
> is done.  I have a hard time imagining that one NT box, even a four way,
> can handle the tasks of two HP3000 boxes.  I expect that you will see a
> big hit in performance, especially with Oracle, on the NT box.
>
> Kevin Newman
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin J. Mullins [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 2:09 PM
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: Another One Bites The Dust?
> >
> > I've been reading this thread which unfortunately applies to
> > our 3K's  as well.  After almost 20 years as a 3K environment we
> >will be one no more!!!
> >
> > Management, despite the recommendations of IS and much info provided
> > to them, have decided that we are going to proceed with a change in our
> > IT infrastructure.
> >
> > Our two HP3000's (one here in the US (969) and another over in
> > Europe(927))  are going to be replaced by a single quad-processor
> >NT server running  Oracle that will be located here in the US!!
> >
> > It is definitely a sad day....when technology is sent packing to be
> > replaced  by an environment that does not provide the same quality, stability,
> > security and capabilities that the HP3000 offers an organization.
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