Take a look at the message headers for the -L and then whitelist the
Return-Path, which are normally the same for all messages from the
list.

Mark


Robert <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message news:<[log in to unmask]>...
> Hey Friends,
>
> Thanks for all the funny comments!
>
> I am just tried of 200+ spam messages each day. So, I decided to try this
> TMDA (an automated junk-mail reduction system) offered by MailSnare.Net.
>
> Let me tell you, My Spam is down to ZERO!!! ... All the invalid returned
> addresses go strait into the trash.
>
> Unfortunately, it works with Sender-Name and White list. The mail arriving
> from HP3000-L, is from individuals (sender is not -L).
>
> Today, I have setup a custom filter, trying to route -L mails directly to
> another account. Will see how this works.
>
> I do apologies for the extra band-with and do want to thank the people who
> did respond to the authentication msg.
>
> Happy Wed!
>
> Rob.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Tom Brandt
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:08 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT: Clueless anti-spam
>
> I expect a message from him any day now wondering why the list is so quiet
> :)
>
> At 04:11 PM 6/1/2004, Roy Brown wrote:
> >In message
> ><[log in to unmask]>, Larry
> >Barnes <[log in to unmask]> writes
> >>Yes, whenever I send an email to the "L" I get this message back.  I
> >>ignore it.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Tom Brandt [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 6:23 AM
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Clueless anti-spam
> >>
> >>
> >>I received this just now in response to a message I posted to HP3000-L.
> >>I wonder if robmpe understands that everyone who posts to the list will
> >>have to run this gauntlet before he can read anything posted to 3000-L.
> >
> ><Snip standard, but excessively-complicated, anti-spam measure
> >description>
> >
> >Yes, it's for real. The idea is that spammers won't reply, and so their
> >original message, which is being held for a day or so pending that
> >reply, can then be junked.
> >
> >Whereas if you are real, you will get his auto-reply as above, you will
> >reply to it, and that will (a) release your original message and (b)
> >white-list you for the future.
> >
> >However, some of this stuff, and some of the people who configure it,
> >have insufficient smarts, and this is happening here. Technically, none
> >of us are writing to this guy; only the -L is. But his software, or the
> >way he has set it up, is not 'getting' this; instead of reading the
> >Return-Path, or the Sender as he should, he's reading the From or the
> >Reply-To :-(
> >
> >So Jeff can't even ask him to just white-list the -L, unless he fixes
> >his configuration first. It won't work, and he'll need to white-list us
> >all, one by one :-(
> >
> >This stuff he's using is a known menace with mailing lists; the better
> >ones let you specify not to pester mailing list correspondents in this
> >way, and perhaps if he told his software about the -L, it would know to
> >look at the Sender/Return Path and check it.
> >
> >If it keeps up, I suppose Jeff could ask him to desist or unsubscribe;
> >he could maybe go read comp.sys.hp.mpe instead.
> >
> >Or, better yet, a book on how these things are done properly.....
>
> --
> Tom Brandt
> Northtech Systems, Inc.
> 130 S. 1st Street, Suite 220
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1343
> http://www.northtech.com/
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