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Spanked hard, for what reason?   A) Not paying enough protection money to Washington or B) Being successful?

Kind regards,

Denys. . .

Denys Beauchemin
HICOMP America, Inc.
(800) 323-8863  (281) 288-7438         Fax: (281) 355-6879
denys at hicomp.com                             www.hicomp.com


-----Original Message-----
From:   Stuart Pierce [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Monday, December 22, 1997 7:14 AM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        Re: DOJ vs. MS: PC-savvy judge

Microsoft should be spanked, hard.
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>From "Joe Geiser" <[log in to unmask]>, on 12/19/97 10:51 PM:
Glenn (and everyone else)

>It looks like the judge in the DOJ vs. MS case won't be snowballed,
>whatever the outcome. NEWS.COM reports
>
>        "In comments that may address the judge's degree of PC-savvy,
>         [Judge] Jackson remarked today that he had been able to
>         uninstall IE in 90 seconds...."
>
>This is in stark contrast to MS's announced claims of having to ship
>either a two year old version of Windows 95 (which had no IE
functionality)
>or shipping the current version but with the IE code ripped out (resulting
>in an inoperable OS).

Here's what the misunderstanding is...

Yes, one can deinstall IE from Windows 95, but not ALL of the code is taken
away.  If one were to remove ALL files that comprise IE, you would end up
with an inoperable OS.  Take it from one who tested it recently.

Also, if one installed IE4, and activated the Shell Extensions,
uninstalling
IE4 will revert the system back to the older (vintage Win 95) UI.  The
Shell
Extensions, which are part and parcel if Windows 98 (it's public knowledge,
I can't get into trouble for saying this) can actually make your Windows
web-enabled, and believe it or not, much easier to use.  It still can be
turned off in Win98 though.

Overall - IE *IS* integrated deep in the bowels of 95 and more so in 98.
One can install Netscape Communicator and use it as the default browser,
but
quite a bit of functionality is lost, such as being in the My Computer
window, and going directly to a website out on the internet, just by
entering a URL.  Is this a breach?  No!  If one looks at Windows Explorer
and Internet Explorer - they are very similar in function.  The Desktop is
Windows Explorer!  In Win98, Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer have
been merged into one, which allows a user to go from a local drive, to a
trusted intranet site, to an internet site, all with just entering URLs ---
and the UI such as buttons are consistent...  This, I believe, is a plus.

So, even if the judge DID do an uninstall of IE --- not all of it went away,
and I wouldn't expect a judge to know what's going on under the covers.  I
wouldn't expect most people to know this...but there's still a piece of IE
in there, supporting Win95.  I personally say - "big deal"...

Joe

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