yep, Tom's got it right, and simple: substitute hp3000-L@raven for senders'
addresses in 3000-L-to-newsgroup x-posts.  newsgroup repliers can easily use
that address for replies, and it might tend to keep threads more on-topic
(the turn-every-thread-religious pattern is getting on my nerves!).

I wish I'd realized the implications when I ignored the initial thread re
whether to xpost or not!

Tracy Pierce


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Hula [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:37 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Changing Email Address (long)
>
>
> Overall, it seems like the best way to keep all the good
> things about the
> list going would be to eliminate email addresses completely from what
> gets cross-posted to the usenet.
>
> Tom Hula
> Victor S. Barnes Company
>
> Michael L Gueterman wrote:
> || John wrote:
> ||
> || <snip>
> || The conclusion?
> || That either the connection sending posts TO the newsgroup must be
> || cut, or email addresses of those who post to the listserve must be
> || stripped, replaced with "address not available", or replaced a
> || generic address like "[log in to unmask]" when posts are fed to
> || the newsgroup.  Comments anyone?
> || <snip>
> ||
> ||   As current "keeper of the gateway flame" :), let me add
> a couple of
> || things:
> ||
> || .  The gateway is pretty much non-discriminatory about what comes
> ||   and goes. For a while a year or so ago we did eliminate some of
> || the messages that were
> ||   cross-posted to various newsgroups from being forwarded to
> ||   HP3000-L, but that is no longer in place due to the next item.
> ||
> || .  UTC (i.e. Jeff) has already limited what HP3000-L will accept
> ||   based upon whether or not you are subscribed directly to that
> || list.  Therefore even if
> ||   you post directly to the newsgroup, you must be a HP3000-L
> ||   subscriber to have your message sent to out to the list
> members (I
> ||   also believe Jeff manually allows some messages through on
> ||   occasion from non-subscribers, but being a subscriber would make
> || that process a whole lot easier :).
> ||
> || .  On multiple occasions, people have brought up the idea that the
> ||   gateway be shutdown to reduce the amount of spam people receive.
> ||   Although that may help, it will by no means stop it.  As an
> ||   example, I have a msn.com account that I use when I travel.  I
> ||   have "never" sent an email through that account anywhere, yet I
> || get dozens of spam emails a day sent to it.
> ||
> ||   So, I'm willing to entertain any ideas that the list
> members (both
> || on the newsgroup and HP3000-L) can come to some consensus on:
> || .  Shut it down (which will cut off many good
> contributors/lurkers).
> || .  Modify the email addresses from postings originally made on
> ||    HP3000-L (which will only slow the spammers down as I'm
> sure that
> ||    any good email address harvesting software already parses the
> || addresses). .  Leave it alone.
> || .  Something else entirely.  ;)
> ||
> || Please keep any discussions on the list as I want whatever comes
> || about
> || to be agreeable to the majority here.
> ||
> || Regards,
> || Michael L Gueterman
> || Easy Does It Technologies
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