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Donna,

given all the responses so far, my SWAG is that a spoofle that's been
removed from out.hpspool no longer has its forms info.  but if you know what
file it's supposed to use, no reason not to use

:file printer;dev=whatever;env=correctsetupfile
:SPOOLF O123.MYGROUP.MYACCT;PRINT;DEV=*printer;PRI=8

IIRC it's my experience that a few things get lost when removing a file from
the spooler:
1) env= specfications
2) "pre-write" carriage control directives.  By that I mean that these are
not records you consciously wrote from your program.  They're probably
passed to the printer / spooler some very weird way, maybe via a special
fopen which the compilers know about, the spooler knows about, but they're
not really in the file.  Once upon a time pre-XL, you at least got to see
that they were there, but in modern? XL times, rarely if ever.  Those
records are usually "C" and "A", each appears in the CCTL byte of the file.
One directs the printer to do-cctl-then-print (as opposed to the printer's
default print-then-do-cctl); the other allows printing across a page
boundary.  The skip-then-print is often critical, but since I don't recall
which is which (it's in the back of the MPE4 pocket guide tho), I always
just put them both back.

For Cobol, old and new, those records are mysteriously included in the
spoofle (or maybe more like "along with the spoofle") if the word AFTER
appears in the code.  Remove the file from the spooler, and they disappear.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Clogg [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:38 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: respooling spoolfiles
>
>
> Because other forms of the spoolf command only can be used for files
> that are spooled, which are always in OUT.HPSPOOL, while the PRINT
> parameter can be used on any spool file, and thus the group
> and account
> are not automatically known.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of KENT WALLACE
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: respooling spoolfiles
>
> I am on a N class 7.0
>
> I notice to do most SPOOLF commands you can just use the number.
>
> :SPOOLF 3463;PRI=3D12
>
> However to do the print I must specify the full spool file name as in:
>
> SPOOLF o3463.OUT.HPSPOOL;PRINT;DEV=3D666
>
> I do not know why?
>
> Kent Wallace
> Boise, ID
>
> >>> John Clogg <[log in to unmask]> 10/01/04 12:27PM >>>
> :SPOOLF O123.MYGROUP.MYACCT;PRINT;DEV=3DLP;PRI=3D8
>
> I'm not sure if form info is preserved; it is not available as a
> parameter on the SPOOLF command.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of donna garverick
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: respooling spoolfiles
>
> hi everyone!
>
> a couple of questions about respooling spoolfiles...  it's a
> relatively
> simple thing to make a copy (or rename) a spoolfile these
> days...however, i'm wonder if anyone has a good procedure for
> respooling a spoolfile that's no longer in hpspool?
>
> just to add to the fun....what if the spoolfile in question is a
> special forms print file?  is there a way to get it properly
> respooled?
>            - d
>
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