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Michael Baier <[log in to unmask]>
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:32:59 -0500, Frank Gribbin <[log in to unmask]>
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>On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:31:43 -0600, george c stachnik <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>>With my HP badge still off, let me say that if you want a scapegoat,
>>blame the commoditization of the computer business.  As more and
>>more buying decisions are made based on price, vendors inevit-
>>ably concentrate on price above all else.  Reliability and efficiency
>>are not bad things - they're just not relevant.  And if you ever chose
>>a $600 PC over a $1200 model that was better built, then you're part
>>of this trend.
>
>
>Well put George.  Your postings address issues we've had with the marketing
>of the 3000.  However, there are many examples of a quality product market
>coexisting with a commoditized one.  For example, many automobiles command
>a higher price for higher quality.  NO ONE would confuse a Mercedes with a
>Geo.  It is the responsibility of the vendor to differentiate its product
>from the herd.
>
>I truly like and admire the company that Bill, Dave, and the HP Way has
>built, but from my 27 years of dealing with HP3000 sales, comparing it with
>sales departments of other large vendors, and putting it as delicately as I
>can, your people had A LOT to learn.  I lost count years ago of how many
>3000 sales HP lost around here because the sales people didn't know how to
>brag about your product and support the sale.  That is where another
>shepherd of MPE can succeed where others have failed.
>
>Yes, HP can stall and block such an initiative, but please don't let that
>happen.  Your wonderful creation, the HP3000, and all those brilliant
>people who made it possible deserve a chance to continue writing history.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Frank Gribbin
>
>
>P.S.  If the 3000 were marketed as boldly .....
>
>Microsoft Windows CE for Automotive 3.5 Advances In-Car Computing
>New Software Platform Enables Safe, Customizable Telematics Products And
>Services for the Automotive Industry
>
>http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011205/sfw070_1.html
>
><pun> Has this been crash tested ? </pun>
>
>Sure would prefer MPE running MY car.
>
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Am I glad that I ride a motorcycle or a bicycle.
M$-products in cars. crashes by the millions.
Billy-Boy watch out for those lawsuits.
Ask the tire-company.

of course people switch to Linux-products. for your good money
when buying from M$ you get "failure" to work.

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