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Deane,

AFAIK, mirroring has never worked on LDEV 1. That rules out the most obvious
software solution.

Now, the problem is : how to secure LDEV 1 ?

If you don't want to invest in some high-tech (and my uneducated guess is
that you probably don't), fully redundant solution, I would recommend
installing Ldev1 on some external Raid box, such as a Mod20 or similar
array. You probably can find a Mod20 at a broker's near you at some
dirt-cheap price. The WC suffix quoted below indicates your system supports
Fast-Wide. Now, the remaining questions are : does your system have an
external FW port, AND do you have a FW cable and a terminator ?

If the answer is yes to all of the above, fine. You're 1 full install short
of Ldev1 hardware redundancy.

HTH,

Christian, somewhere in France, still occasionally trying to be relevant

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part
> de Deane Bell
> Envoyé : lundi 26 novembre 2007 19:06
> À : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : [HP3000-L] 'Raiding' LDEV1 (Was: HP3000 Homesteading Questions)
>
> Nothing like relying on good advice from folks who've 'been there, done
> that'.  Regarding both your posts to the 3000 list, IS there an HP
> supported solution for replacing the 4GB internal LDEV1 with something
> that supports RAID (or at least mirroring)?  We currently have our
> production data in 'Jamaica' units, fully mirrored (Mirror/iX), but indeed
> I've been worried about the ancient LDEV1 ... enough that we do everything
> possible to NOT shutdown power.  It has reached the point where I have
> concern that if the drive ever lost it's taste for power ... it might
> never spin up again and the thought of a RELOAD is not fun.
>
> We currently have our system on full HP Support.
> LDEV: 1;  Type: ST34573WC;  Size: 4.29Gb;  Path: 10/4/24.6.0
>
> Any advice, specific hardware make/models, software for addressing the
> single LDEV1 situation would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> ----------
>
> Date:    Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:51:52 -0800
> From:    donna hofmeister <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: HP3000 Homesteading Questions
>
> ...... i'll as strongly as possible urge you to look at
> upgrading your disc.  it's probably the one component most likely to
> fail on your box -- especially if you're still running internal 4 or
> 8gb drives.  if your drives have been in service for more than 8-10
> years (did you put in new disc to upgrade to 5.5 for y2k?), imo you're
> skating on thin ice!  it's a matter of time before you'll be changing
> disc in a panic instead easily over some weekend.  so ask your vendor
> -- do you have staff that can assist with a disk migration?
>
> ----------
>
> Date:    Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:17:23 -0600
> From:    John Lee <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: HP3000 Homesteading Questions
>
> Superb advice from donna.  I've been doing this for 12 years and the sites
> we support who have the smoothest operation do as donna suggests.  They
> rarely have unscheduled downtime or emergencies.
>
> And one more word on old disc.  If you're not RAIDed, you're not doing
> your homework.  It's inexpensive and light years ahead of old internal SE
> SCSI disc.
>
> John Lee
> Vaske Computer Solutions
>
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