---- Original Message ----
From: "Wayne R. Boyer" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: AS400 Time Change

> In a message dated 10/25/02 3:22:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:

>>   Depending upon the web server, the logs are (can be) written using
>> UTC, and are therefore not subject to changes in daylight savings
>> time.

> Good point!  But now a further question... If a system is sitting in
> the UK and daylights savings occurs in the UK (it does doesn't it?),
> wouldn't/shouldn't the time change by an hour?

It does, it did, and it ended last night. Same day as for you, for once.

In possibly our only use of the Merkin expression for 'autumn', we use 'Spring
forward, fall backward' as a handy aide memoire for which way the clocks go.


>  Perhaps the system is set to use "GMT" which can change and thus GMT and
UTC can be different?

What we have in the summer is called BST (British Summer Time). This is one
hour ahead of GMT, which does not change with the seasons. HP have kindly
provided us Brits with a setting called GMT0BST, or some such, for our HP3000
clock thingy.

Apropos of 'Summer Time', I wish it was more than just the HP3000 which could
adjust itself slowly. Or even easily....

My desktop and laptop fire up, offer the 'new' time for my approval, and we're
away. Done deal! But not so the others.....

I have clocks where you just turn a knob, backwards. I have ones where you
can't, but have to go 23 hours forward.

I have videos that are supposed to reset themselves from the time in a given
TV channel. (Except for the one that can do it in spring, but not autumn, so
it turns off 'auto-adjust' instead, and I have to fight it to the last menu to
get it back on). I have a video that is the traditional hands-and-knees job. I
have one where you adjust it from the remote control, and transmit the new
time (I really *like* that one, but I always forget it's on the remote, and do
a frustrated hands-and-knees job first).

I have digital devices where you go mode-mode-mode-s, and then you can go up
or down one, and devices where you go mode-mode-s-mode to do the same, but you
have to go up 23.

I have one hi-fi with a 'Summer Time' button, and all I have to do it press it
to toggle the hour forward or back. Very modern. So modern in fact, I only
bought it this summer, and set it up for GMT, not BST. So when I toggled it,
it went the wrong way....

I have a hi-fi and a boom box of which neither, in my opinion, has a
'discoverable' clock-changing sequence; if I lose the manuals, or the remote
controls, they will be struck in whichever half-year that happens in. And the
remote was supposed to makes for an easier-to-use boom box...

Despite having a *very hard look* at the DVD, it doesn't seem to have a clock
on it. Odd, that...

The oven has three little buttons, with hands and bells and things. My wife
can change the time on this perfectly, without the manual, but if I do it, I
press the wrong ones to reset the time. It will still reset the time, but it
will also come on at midnight, cook the empty oven for three hours, and than
signal that the 'meal' is done with a new and unfamiliar beep tone that is
only audible to bats with exceptional auditory acuity. (Still, at least it
doesn't wake you. That honour is reserved for the boiler, which I always
forget about, and which thus kicks in an hour early in the morning, with its
characteristic 'whump').

Finally, I get in my car Monday morning, and see I should already be at work.
Except it's not true, I can set this clock back as well. And at last, I really
appreciate the 'extra hour'.

:-)


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