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> My off-list discussion with donna

who me? :-)

> brings me to a couple of questions for the
> intrepid souls among us who are running various daemons, the first question
> more appropriate for Halloween than Christmas: how would you like to kill
> your daemons?

to give an example....  here's a ps -au for manager.ctm from one of my systems:

:ps '-au MANAGER.CTM'
       PID TTY      TIME COMMAND
     65611 ldev10   0:00 CI.PUB.SYS
     65613 ldev10   0:00 CI.PUB.SYS
    131162 ldev10   0:00 SH.HPBIN.SYS
    131168 ldev10   0:00 SH.HPBIN.SYS
    196712 ldev10   0:13 /CTM/BIN/p_ctmag
     65644 ldev10   0:46 /CTM/BIN/p_ctmat
    131219 ldev10   0:00 CI.PUB.SYS
    131221 ldev10   0:00 SH.HPBIN.SYS
    196758 ldev10   0:45 /CTM/BIN/p_ctmat

pretending that /CTM/BIN/p_ctmat is the name of the program that needs killing,
what pid should be used??

the example that greg and i were looking at yesterday (which of course, i can't
duplicate today :-) was for smbd.samba.sys.  it was very similar to the above
example -- there were two lines both listing smbd.samba.sys.  again, which pid
to use?

my entirely non-scientific observations indicate that 'smallish' pids (in the
65k range) are the right number.  'large-ish' pids (like 196758 in the above
example) are...well not :-)

> Daemons can be killed by determining their pids and killing
> these pids.

this brings up the next logical question (i think).  i've tried going into the
shell and typed 'kill <pid_number>' and the shell says something impolite in
return.  (actually, the only way i've gotten kill to work is the 'kill `cat...`'
method that mark showed us.)  how do kill something without a pid file?  just a
pid number?          - d

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