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Roy,

on one web-site I found this comment about the General Sada.

a) He hadn't been working for the Iraqi Air Force for nearly a decade at 
the point of the Iraq war.
b) He was working as a close political advisor to Allawi at the time he 
published his book (hardly a disintersted figure).
c) He sat on the story for four years without passing the info on to the 
government or the press.
d) His book was published by a outfit that supposedly already has a history 
of publishing some dodgy literature.

Seems, like many advisors for George, his knowledge was at least 10 years 
old. 
Why didn't any of them come forward in 2000-2002?

However I did find a 2003 Coventry International Prize for Peace and 
Reconciliation. Seems Mr. Sada as well as Ayatollah Alsadr were awarded the 
prize together. 
Isn't he the father of the radical Iraqi Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr of the 
holy city of Najaf?

Lot of different truth/lies out there.
Michael



On Tue, 2 May 2006 22:16:56 -0500, Roy Brown 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>In message <[log in to unmask]>, Denys
>Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]> writes
>
>>I could go on and on and you will notice that I did not give you any links
>>to look at simple because it really makes no difference to you and others
>>like you; no amount of document or information will change your mind.  You
>>actually believe that Saddam was a nice guy and didn't kill
>>300,000-2,000,000 people or more.  You absolutely refuse to believe that 
he
>>was a bad person, to say the least.  In your mind, George W. Bush is evil
>>for having removed Saddam and Tony Blair is evil for helping him.
>>
>>The document dump that is coming out right now, and is totally ignored by
>>the legacy media (which includes about all the Euro-press,) details all 
this
>>stuff.  You never heard of it, and that's ok with you because it's all a
>>plot by the evil Bush to grab all the world's oil.
>>
>>The Europeans have a long and sad history of ignoring a growing storm, to
>>their great detriment.  This time however, you will be on your own as many
>>European countries are now finding out.
>>
>>I leave you with the following report from a few weeks ago.
>
>Who is Melanie Phillips, and why should we believe a word she writes?
>
>>"In London yesterday, I met General Georges Sada. An Iraqi Christian, he 
was
>>Air Vice Marshal in Saddam's Iraq and, despite being an Assyrian and not a
>>member of the Ba'ath party, was by his own account a close adviser to 
Saddam
>>and was very much at the heart of the action during Saddam's regime. 
Somehow
>>he survived and became, among other things, the President of the National
>>Presbyterian Church in Baghdad and head of the Iraqi branch of the Centre
>>for Peace and Reconciliation
>
>Cannot be found on the web.
>
>>, whose headquarters are based at Coventry Cathedral
>
>Perhaps this is a distortion of:
>http://www.corporate.coventry.ac.uk/cms/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2586
>
>?
>
>> and whose bishop bestowed upon him the Prize for International
>>Peace and Reconciliation.
>
>There are 37 references to this on Google. All are quotes and requotes
>of Melanie Phillips' original unsupported posting.
>
>Can you please provide some independent evidence that this Prize is any
>more real than Saddam's WMD?
>
>>Last year, an American Christian organisation that raises funds for needy
>>Iraqi children
>and is called what?
>> invited Sada to a conference.
>where and when?
>> At that conference, he raised
>>eyebrows when he announced that he knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that
>>Saddam had hidden his weapons of mass destruction in 2002-3 by 
transporting
>>them to Syria. He was persuaded
>Who by?
>> to set down his account in a book, Saddam's
>>Secrets, which was published in America earlier this year by a small
>>Christian publisher, Integrity.
>
>A very big coup for a very minor publisher, or crank writing finding its
>own level?
>
>And look at what other books Jim Nelson Black has been involved with....
>
>Yada, yada, yada.
>
>Please resolve the above for us, and maybe then we can think about
>continuing with this farrago...
>
>--
>Roy Brown        'Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be
>Kelmscott Ltd     useful, or believe to be beautiful'  William Morris
>
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