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People can say whatever they want and it can either a), be incorrect or 
overblown, b) be taken out of context, c) be quoted incorrectly or d) all 
of the above.  I do not know for sure that NTW and NTS are equivalent in 
speed on the desktop, but I have never seen it stated with unimpeachable 
authority that they are not.  I am not really setup to either confirm or 
infirm the theory, so I leave it as an exercise (in futility?) to someone 
else.  I just find it difficult to believe that as a corporate strategy, MS 
would slow down NTW vis-à-vis NTS.

As for the Exchange licenses, what you refer to is beta code.  What I 
referred to is actual code in production.  It has been this way since 
Exchange 4.0 was first released back in 1996.  Now, I have heard over the 
years, many warnings that such and such a company was going to put 
licensing constraints on a product.  It was even in the beta code.  But 
when the product was finally released, guess what?  No such constraint was 
in the product.  Maybe this time, they will do it, maybe not.  Remember 
there is a big war for seats raging between Notes, Groupware and Exchange. 
 I am not advocating that sites don't have to pay for the proper number of 
licenses, what I am saying is that it is the responsibility of the 
companies to have the proper licenses for the software they use.

I daresay that if it is indeed the case, where the number of concurrent 
clients is enforced, there are going to be many sites which will not 
upgrade to Office2000.  And no, I do not know of any of these sites, I am 
just guessing.

Kind regards,

Denys. . .

Denys Beauchemin
HICOMP America, Inc.
(800) 323-8863  (281) 288-7438         Fax: (281) 355-6879
denys at hicomp.com                             www.hicomp.com



-----Original Message-----
From:   Joe Geiser [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Tuesday, 23 March, 1999 10:16 AM
To:     Denys Beauchemin; HP3000-l Discussion Group
Subject:        RE: HP crackdown on resellers

Denys said, and I'll respond,

> Windows NT Server and Workstation are identical except for a
> few registry
> settings, and the fact Server comes with a veritable
> truckload of tools and
> utilities to manage a network and a domain and do software
> RAID on the
> disks.  Do not fool around with the registry settings,
> because with 4.0, if
> not done exactly right and in the proper time frame, you will have to
> re-install NT.

True, however the speed portion came from an online chat with some MS
Labbies one evening not too long ago - so I cannot point to a specific
document that states this.  If the labbies are wrong, then I withdraw that
portion...

> Now, for prices.  Windows 98 is listed at $129 for the
> license.  I believe
> Windows NT Workstation is listed at $209, tough I have seen
> it much lower
> (maybe gray market.)  Windows NT Server is listed at $809
> with 5 client licenses.

I quoted server only - forgive me.. NTWS lists for 209 and can be had for
$189 (legally)

> Gary poses a great question RE Exchange license.  He is
> correct in that MS
> wants you to have the proper number of licenses, but that is
> the number of
> connections at any one time, and even then, the software does
> not prevent
> the number of sessions to exceed the license.  Rather it logs
> the event in
> the system log so that you can see it an address it.

However, with Office2000, if using Outlook2000, if you exceed licenses, you
will get a dialog preventing you from Exchange.  Unless that's a bug (doubt
it) - the licensing feature is/will start to be enforced.

Regards,
Joe