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Shawn Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
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Larry is correct, we chose to not dilute our efforts by going off of the HP
3000, and when people call us and ask for a Unix solution, we always tell
them about HourGlass and TimeMachine.  I understand that your Unix versions
of TimeMachine are very good, but the last time I looked at the 3000
version there were a number of glaring ommissions in the coverage, such as
date/time in HPPROMPT, redirection of date/time commands to a file such as
SHOWTIME>MYFILE, didn't trap SHOWCLOCK, didn't trap the pdc_time intrinsic,
couldn't handle boolean expressions on date/time fields at the CI, no
inheritance, automatic or otherwise.  Hopefully all of these problems have
been fixed by now.

TimeWarp was solely developed by S.M.Gordon & Associates, and we are the
sole source of support.  We are happy to have OmniSolutions and MiniSoft
also represent us in the U.S., and Gainsborough and MiniSoft represent us
in Europe.  If you follow this link
http://www.bradmark.com/timemachine.htm, you will see that Bradmark also
sells Time Machine for you.

We also invite comparisons.

Regards,

Shawn Gordon

ps. My original email was meant as a private reply because I didn't want to
start a whole other set of date wars on the list, so my apologies on that
count.






Larry Boyd <[log in to unmask]> on 10/23/99 01:03:26 PM

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Shawn Gordon wrote:

>                     TimeMachine is the least complete and
> most unstable of
> the three.  TimeWarp is easier to use, and HourGlass
>                     doesn't use the AIF:PE.  You will hear plenty of
> reasons from all the vendors as to why their approach is best.
>                     TimeWarp tends to be cheaper as well.

---- To make sure everyone knows right up front, I do work for
Solution-Soft the makers of Time Machine. ----

As several of our customers have already pointed out, Time Machine is
very effective!.  As far as Shawn's statement, "TimeMachine is the
least complete and most unstable of the three." let me just say that
there would be several hundred customers who would respectfully
disagree.

We have more than a thousand copies of Time Machine being used on the
HP 3000, HP 9000, IBM RS/6000, Sun Solaris, Sun SunOS, NCR MP-RAS,
MS-NT and SGI.  Likewise, both HP and IBM purchased and use, or used,
Time Machine on their internal applications.  IBM GS only recommends
Time Machine and after many tests in the IBM RS/6000 R&D lab and input
of IBM GS consultants who had used Time Machine, they rated Time
Machine with their highest third-party product rating - namely,
"recommended for engagement."  This includes engagements with *any* of
the our supported platforms, including non-IBM equipment.
Additionally, other major consulting companies recommend Time Machine.
An important point to make with these recommendations is that *none*
of these receive any financial benefits for recommending Time
Machine -- they simply gain the same benefits of using Time Machine as
do all Time Machine customers.  *Fourteen* of the Fortune 20 purchased
and use, or have used, Time Machine!!!  Time Machine *is* the market
leading date simulation tool on *every* platform we support, and in
total for these platforms.

Lastly, TimeWarp doesn't even come close to providing the "complete"
solution, unless you only focus on the HP 3000 and *not* on your
entire environment.  While HourGlass doesn't support the numerous
platforms and operating system versions that Time Machine does, at
least they support even more than TimeWarp.

Is TimeWarp "cheaper" than Time Machine?  Absolutely!!  And a Kia is
cheaper than a Lexus.  Time Machine is the *only* product designed,
developed, supported, marketed and sold by the same company -
Solution-Soft.

The bottom line?  We're pleased to have prospects take advantage of
our demo period, and welcome direct comparisons with HourGlass and
TimeWarp.  You can take our word for it, you can take our customers
word for it, or you can take advantage of the demo and make your own
decision.

Give us a call, and you'll see the difference!

LB

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