John,

<And as far as SQL COMMIT is concerned, I have seen that fail
on more than
one occasion.  But, you've never seen or heard Oracle admit to
that
happening.  That's a bug, not a feature!>

To your knowledge is there currently a significant COMMIT bug
in Oracle?   If so, is it confined to a few platforms or a
more general problem?

IMO HP appears to treat the dynamic rollback problem more like
a DBMS limitation than a bug.    In HP's defense, however, my
informal polls of HP 3000 programmers reveal that most shops
do not consider transactional integrity a important
requirement for their applications.  I find that rather
shocking but there it is.

- Cortlandt



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Cortlandt responded to the claim in my ad copy:

With over 25 years of innovations your CSY team has improved
this platform to the point where it is the most robust OLTP
server available.

> John,

> That is a bold claim.  Can you quickly justify it?  The
"jury"
> will be the readers of the ad.

> The IT world is full of hype.  If anyone else were to claim
> that their operating system is THE best in a demanding
category
> like robustness I would be very suspicious.   Lets be sure
that
> our claims are as reliable as MPE/iX.

> I would point out that the dynamic rollback feature of
Image --
> Image's functional equivalent of the SQL "COMMIT"
statement --
> sometimes fails.


Cortlandt,

While I see your point, I don't think you get mine.  After
all, we're NOT
preparing a legal brief here.  We're trying to spur interest
in a platform
that deserves a second look.  So, I graciously invite "any
other computer
maker" to refute my claim with hard facts.  I don't think
you'll find too
many takers.  Besides, with all the totally overinflated B.S.
in the world
surrounding computers, I think this line is but a smidgen, if
at all.  I
mean, after all, when it comes to computers, define the word
"robust".

And as far as SQL COMMIT is concerned, I have seen that fail
on more than
one occasion.  But, you've never seen or heard Oracle admit to
that
happening.  That's a bug, not a feature!

John Hornberger
Sr. Systems Programmer
SPX Corporation