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Kerry did pretty good in my opinion.
All George said was, if you are wrong and chief then wrong is right no
matter what.
Sounded so much like the excuses of Lay, Steward, Rigas and all the others.

3 Polls Show Kerry Won Debate Over Bush

By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent

CORAL GABLES, Fla. - President Bush and Sen. John Kerry rushed back to the
campaign trail Friday to try to convince voters they had won the debate
over foreign policy and to renew the argument over whether going to war in
Iraq had made the nation safer.

Three post-debate polls suggested voters who watched the policy-driven
confrontation Thursday night were impressed by Kerry. Most of those
surveyed said he did better than Bush.

Kerry's running mate, Sen. John Edwards, said Friday he told Kerry after
the debate "I think people saw the next commander in chief," and he
criticized Bush for failing to acknowledge problems in Iraq. "You can't fix
a problem if you're not willing to admit that mistakes have been made and
that you have a problem," he told ABC's "Good Morning America."

Bush, however, believed he had effectively spelled out the strategy and
shown the resolve with which he is fighting the war on terror, White House
communications director Dan Bartlett said. "I think he spoke from the
heart, spoke with strength about the necessity for our country to fight the
terrorists over there so we don't have to face them here at home," Bartlett
told ABC. "He had a good time last night."

Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who informally advised Bush on how
to debate his friend and Senate colleague, told reporters in Miami on
Friday that the debate was probably Kerry's "brightest moment" in the last
six weeks. "He presented himself well, John did," McCain said. "Kerry came
out slugging."

Kerry's campaign prepared a TV ad that featured newspaper headlines from
Friday praising the Democrat's performance. The Democratic National
Committee was rolling out a Web video showing clips of Bush appearing
frustrated at the debate.

When Kerry leveled some of his charges, Bush appeared irritated and scowled
at times and, at other moments, glanced away in apparent disgust. Kerry
often took notes when the president spoke. The television networks offered
a split screen to viewers so they could see both men at the same time and
watch their reactions.

Bush knew he would be on camera during the entire debate and was aware that
the networks had not agreed to show only the candidate who was speaking,
Bush campaign spokeswoman Nicolle Devenish said. Regarding Bush's facial
reactions, Devenish said: "The president reacted honestly. It showed the
president really believes in his convictions."

From the first question, Kerry went on the offensive, accusing Bush of
leaving U.S. alliances around the world "in shatters" and later calling
Iraq "this incredible mess." Bush said Kerry had voted to authorize the war
he now criticizes. "That's not how a commander in chief acts," Bush said.

Less than five weeks before the election, Iraq dominated the debate on a
day when a string of bombs killed 35 children and wounded scores of others
in western Baghdad. Overall, more than 1,000 U.S. soldiers have died in
Iraq.

Kerry summed up Bush's strategy for Iraq as "more of the same" and
added: "This president has made, I regret to say, a colossal error of
judgment. And judgment is what we look for in the president of the United
States of America."

Bush acknowledged that not every American agrees with the decisions he's
made. "But people know where I stand," Bush said, suggesting they don't
know where Kerry stands. "People out there listening know what I believe."

From Florida, Bush was heading out Friday to rallies in Pennsylvania and
New Hampshire, two key battleground states. Kerry was spending the day
campaigning in Florida, where the presidential race was decided four years
ago.

In Thursday night's encounter at the University of Miami, Bush and Kerry
drew heavily on oft-repeated lines from their campaign speeches but they
faced each other directly across the same stage for the first time.

On Iraq, Bush criticized Kerry for saying it was the wrong war at the wrong
time in the wrong place. "What message does that send to our troops?" the
president said. "Not a message a commander in chief gives."

Repeating a line he has used countless times to show his opponent is
inconsistent, Bush tweaked Kerry for saying he voted for an $87 billion
spending bill for Iraq and Afghanistan before he voted against it.

Kerry shot back, "Well, you know, when I talked bout the $87 billion, I
made a mistake in how I talk about the war. But the president made a
mistake in invading Iraq. Which is worse?"

Trying to persuade voters that he is tough enough to be commander in chief,
Kerry said, "I believe in being strong and resolute and determined. And I
will hunt down and kill the terrorists, wherever they are." He said that
Bush, in invading Iraq, lost sight of the goal of capturing terrorist
leader Osama bin Laden.

But Bush insisted that "the world is safer without Saddam Hussein." He
called Iraq "a central part in the war on terror" and said 75 percent of
bin Laden's leadership had been brought to justice.

Trying to turn Kerry's criticism against him, Bush said, "I understand what
it means to be the commander in chief. And if I were to ever say, 'This is
the wrong war at the wrong time at the wrong place,' the troops would
wonder, 'How can I follow this guy?'"

To Kerry's contention that he could summon broader international support
for the war, Bush said, "They're not going to follow someone whose core
convictions keep changing because of politics."

While Iraq was the dominant issue in the debate, there were notable
differences on North Korea and Iran, two nations suspected of pursuing
nuclear weapons programs. Kerry urged that the United States hold direct
bilateral talks with North Korea, but Bush called Kerry's proposal "a big
mistake" that would crush multinational talks and remove pressure from
China on North Korea. Kerry said North Korea has amassed more nuclear
weapons during Bush's administration.

On Iran, Kerry said the United States should have worked with allies like
France, Germany and Britain to impose sanctions if Tehran refused to give
up its nuclear program.

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