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"Emerson, Tom # El Monte" <[log in to unmask]>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>
> Just an FYI...
>
> Microsoft confirmed on Wednesday that a number of its online sites are
> currently unavailable and have been down for a number of hours.
>
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4583218.html?tag=st.ne.10
> 02.unkn&tag=un
> kn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Kortiak [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>
> Is it just me or is Microsoft down?  I haven't been able to
> view any of
> their pages all day!

As a further followup, here is an item from my Linux e-mail list that may
shed some light:  (the attributions are a bit hard to follow -- I suspect
this has been around the block a few times...)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Lyons [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Subject: [SGVLUG] Re: [svlug] (forw) RE: [Pigdog] Did someone hijack
> Microsoft ?
>
>
> Just wanted everybody to know why msn/hotmail/msnbc and
> couple of other
> things weren't working for most of today.
>
> Blue skies...         Todd
>
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > > All on the same router?
> > I suspect details will be a little scarce, and accompanied
> > by copious "interpretation".
>
> It doesn't matter.  It's all ICANN's fault (I have to
> officially bow to the
> Micro$oft propoganda machine...this is seemingly beyond even them)
>
>
>
> Subject:  RE: Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN
>    Date:  Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:09:45 -0800
>    From:  Roeland Meyer <rmeyer at mhsc.com>
>      To:  "'Sean Donelan'" <sean at donelan.com>, [log in to unmask]
>
> Blaming it on ICANN, even indirectly, is about as clueless a
> move as can be
> imagined. ICANN has no direct authority over the root, the
> USG/DOC/NTIA has
> reserved that privilege for itself alone. They have let out
> the operations
> contract to NSI, who manages the a.root-servers.net and has
> been doing so
> for years.
>
> MHSC has been working with MS engineering and support staff,
> for the past
> few months, to integrate BIND8.2.2p7 servers with
> Win2K/DNS/AD. It isn't
> easy because of semantic inconsistency, radically diverse architecture
> concepts, and [above all] severe lack of documentation on MS
> part (as well
> as a few roaches in the SRV update stuff).
>
> >From our efforts, it is not at all surprising that someone,
> at MSFT, munged
> the DNS configuration, totally. Even their best guru could
> have done it, due
> to the murky nature of the config. I suspect that there are
> less than 100
> ppl that could even have a clue, in this area, and they don't
> all have the
> same pieces of clue.
>
> Win2K DNS is self-consistent, BIND is self-consistent, they
> may be mutually
> consistent, but that has yet to be determined. MSFT works in
> a glasshouse
> with many of the panes painted-over, others are distorted.
> Similary, there
> is a tendency, among *nix folk, to discount anything MSFT (a
> mistake, IMHO).
>
> What's needed is for some(one/group) that has a though
> understanding of both
> systems, at the design level, to sort out the bits. This is
> properly, a
> development project, one that most system admins are unsuited for.
> Unfortunately, it is left at the system admin level, IMHO.
>
> --
> ROELAND M.J. MEYER
> Managing Director
> Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc.
> TEL: +001 925 373 3954
> FAX: +001 925 373 9781
> http://www.mhsc.com
> mailto: rmeyer at mhsc.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean at donelan.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:40 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN
> >
> >
> >
> > Microsoft appears to be blaming ICANN for the failure with Microft's
> > domain name servers (all located at the same place at Microsoft).
> >
> >   Microsoft has yet to pin down the cause of the DNS error. "It can
> >   be a system or human error, but somebody could also have done this
> >   intentionally," De Jonge said. "We don't manage the DNS ourselves,
> >   it is a system controlled by the Internet Corporation for Assigned
> >   Names and Numbers (ICANN) with worldwide replicas."
> >
> > http://www.idg.net/ic_386962_1793_1-1681.html
> >
> > Microsoft gamers (users of www.zone.com) quickly came up
> with various
> > workarounds so they could continue playing.  They were
> > posting HOSTS.TXT
> > files on various gamer bulletin boards overnight.  In particular
> > "Asheron's Call" had several problems during the last week,
> including
> > banning a number of users and rolling back experience points due to
> > a game bug.
> --
> Blue skies...         Todd
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