On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Gavin Scott wrote:
 
> Eric writes:
> > Can anyone provide feedback on the Motif product available on the 3k?
> >
> > Better yet, can anyone describe their use of Motif on the 3k? (I remember a
> > post once that the Boeing? people had 3k Motif apps running.)
>
> Well, I was *the* beta test site for Motif/XL when it came out a
> few years ago. the following comments are based on that experience,
> and things may have changed since that time (then again, since there
> haven't been many users of the product, things might *not* have
> changed).
 
  Is there a version of Motif for MPE/V systems?  If not, is source
available so that it may be compiled under MPE/V?
 
  Is there any GUI type interface for MPE/V based HP 3000s?
 
> Watch out for fancy Motif widgets and other things that enable
> mouse tracking events. When this gets turned on, every motion of
> the mouse over a window that is coming from the 3000 will spam
> the 3000 with network packets, which is a Bad Thing(tm).
>
> Performance is really not bad for less intensive applications. An
> X based user will probably use up significantly more resources
> than a terminal (or VT) based user though.
>
> As I recall, you were required to statically link ~12000 sectors of
> Motif and X code into every application, so if you want to have lots
> of programs, then memory becomes an issue. They may have fixed this
> now that 5.0 supports shared global data, but I don't know how much
> work has gone into the product lately.
>
> >  Any simple Motif application source welcome.  I'd sure like to see an
> > existing application to model to setup a demo.
>
> I was able to compile a lot of public domain X programs and run them
> on the 3000. At that time most of the interesting stuff required the
> Athena widgets, which HP never provides with their X distribution,
> so most of what I played with wasn't very fancy stuff (xasteroids
> runs amazingly well).
>
 NCSA Mosaic?
 
Daniel Kosack
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