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"Hoxsie, Howard" <[log in to unmask]>
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Hoxsie, Howard
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Oh, gimme a break.

I believe that these sorts of outlandish exchanges of accusations are
irresponsible at the very least, and that once this election season is
over people will have cooled their collective heads and realize how
silly they've been, and retreat from such ridiculous political
diatribes.

I also believe that wading through all this garbage is indeed part of
the price that each of us pays for the great good luck we have to live
in a participatory society.

Good luck, to all your favorite sons and daughters in their upcoming
contests.  Vote early, vote often...

Be willing to laugh about it when it's over,
Howard

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Jim Mc Coy
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:45 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Republican Group Accused of Voter Fraud

Actually this guy is a democrat. And this type of vote fraud, as well as
voter initmidation, and other violence is being perpetrated bu democrats
all
over the country.

Nationwide, democrats have been firing guns into GOP offices (so much
for
thier anti-gun stances) and burglarizing others.

jm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cummings" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Republican Group Accused of Voter Fraud


> 10/19/2004 09:02 AM                  ID: 43776
> Man Falsified Voter Forms For Crack Cocaine
> Ohio resident Chad Staton, 22, has been arrested and charged with a
> 5th-degree felony for falsifying more than 100 voter registration
forms
> for
> an NAACP voter drive worker in exchange for crack cocaine.
> Georgianne Pitts, 41, who worked for the NAACP on their voter
registration
> drive, admitted to paying Staton in crack cocaine for falsifying the
> forms.
> A search of Staton's home found even more voter registration forms and
> drug
> items.
> Ohio Republican Party spokesman Jason Mauk said there is "an effort to
> steal Ohio's election" that is "being driven exclusively by interest
> groups
> working to register Democratic voters."
>  Source: www.toledoblade.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Baier [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:58 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Republican Group Accused of Voter Fraud
>
>
> Democracy???? !!!!
> No wonder the Democrats hired so many lawyers. They need to.
> Seems like this is a 3-world country or a banana-republic.
>
> Republican Group Accused of Voter Fraud
> By DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer
>
> Substitute teacher Adam Banse wanted a summer job with flexible hours,
so
> he signed up to knock on doors in suburban Minneapolis and register
people
> to vote. He quit after two hours.
>
> "They said if you bring back a bunch of Democratic cards, you'll be
> fired,"
> Banse contends. "At that point, I said, `Whoa. Something's wrong
here.'"
>
> He isn't alone. In several battleground states across the country, a
> consulting firm funded by the Republican National Committee has been
> accused of deceiving would-be voters and destroying Democratic voter
> registration cards.
>
> Arizona-based Sproul & Associates is under investigation in Oregon and
> Nevada over claims that canvassers hired by the company were
instructed to
> register only Republicans and to get rid of registration forms
completed
> by
> Democrats.
>
> "We treat these complaints very seriously," said Oregon Secretary of
State
> Bill Bradbury. The Democratic office-holder said three complaints were
> filed with election officials throughout the state. He declined to
provide
> details, citing the continuing investigation.
>
> Nathan Sproul, a former head of Arizona's Republican Party and the
state's
> Christian Coalition branch, denies any wrongdoing and accuses
Democrats of
> making things up.
>
> "This is all about making accusations," Sproul said Thursday. "They
allege
> fraud where none exists and get the media to cover it."
>
> Republican National Committee spokeswoman Heather Layman responded
that
> her
> party accepts all voters, and she accused the Democratic Party of
> operating
> under this mandate: "If no sign of voter fraud exists, make it up,
> manipulate the media into covering baseless charges and spread fear."
>
> Sproul declined to name the states in which his company conducted
> registration drives. His political consulting firm was founded last
year
> and has received nearly $500,000 from the RNC since July, according to
> federal election records.
>
> Former canvassers such as Banse have come forward in West Virginia,
> Pennsylvania, Nevada and Oregon in the past two weeks alleging they
were
> told to register only Republicans and to "walk away" from people who
said
> they intended to vote for Democrat John Kerry.
>
> Some said Democratic registration forms had been thrown out or ripped
up.
>
> It is illegal to tamper with voter registration cards, which are
numbered
> and issued by local election officials. In some states, including
Oregon,
> such acts are felonies.
>
> Eric Russell of Las Vegas told The Associated Press that he watched a
> Sproul supervisor tear up eight to 10 registration forms completed by
> Democrats and managed to grab some of the shredded documents as
evidence.
> State officials are investigating his claim.
>
> Russell said that Voters Outreach of America, the name under which
Sproul
> employees operated in Nevada and other states, owes him hundreds of
> dollars
> for registering residents but refuses to pay him.
>
> Sproul called Russell simply a disgruntled employee.
>
> Prompted by Russell's accusations, Clark County Democrats
unsuccessfully
> went to court last week to try to persuade a state judge to reopen
voter
> registration in their county, which encompasses Las Vegas.
>
> In West Virginia, Lisa Bragg said she refused a sorely needed
$9-an-hour
> job to register voters after attending an orientation session
conducted by
> Sproul employees.
>
> Like Banse in Minnesota, she said canvassers were discouraged from
> registering Democrats and were told to misrepresent themselves as poll
> takers.
>
> Bragg, who filed a complaint earlier this week with the West Virginia
> secretary of state's office, said Friday that canvassers were given a
> script that read at the bottom, "Our goal is to register Republicans."
>
> She called the registration drive dishonest, adding, "I believe
everyone
> has the right to vote. Even though I'm a Democrat, I would have
registered
> Republicans to vote."
>
> In Pennsylvania this week, former Sproul canvassers said they had been
> instructed to not register Democrats. About 40 to 50 also complained
they
> had not been paid.
>
> In Pittsburgh, library patrons protested that Sproul employees were
> pressuring people to register as Republicans at tables set up outside
a
> Carnegie Library branch.
>
> A similar incident was reported in Oregon in September, when the
manager
> of
> Medford library headquarters refused a Sproul request to register
voters
> after learning the firm was affiliated with Republicans.
>
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