The file's label could be corrupt.
Run "fscheck.mpexl.telesup" when you are the only user on the system.
Then use the "checkall all" command.
It will report any corrupt files and ask you if you want to delete them.
HTH,
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Allen H [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:57 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Stuck Files
I've found that rm from the POSIX shell will even purge files being
accessed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald R Horner [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Stuck Files
What about using RM. That seems to work around many MPE issues.
"Jonathan M. Backus" wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> Have you done a "listfile eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,3;pass" to see the
creator
> and security set on the file?
>
> Thanx,
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gaunt, Dennis x5324 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:46 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: Stuck Files
>
> I am logged on as manager.sys, I just default to the operator group when
> logging on.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan M. Backus [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:24 PM
> > To: 'Gaunt, Dennis x5324'
> > Subject: RE: Stuck Files
> >
> >
> > Dennis,
> >
> > Have you tried logging on as MANAGER.SYS and purging it? I
noticed
> > your
> > earlier example implied OPERATOR.SYS. The error message you are getting
> > can
> > be caused by file access or the lack of capabilities of the current
user.
> >
> > [3]/SYS/PUB>help cierr384
> > MESSAGE UNABLE TO PURGE FILE !. (CIERR 384)
> >
> > CAUSE The file you specified is either being used, or you do not
> > have the appropriate capabilities to purge it.
> >
> > ACTION Check the output of LISTF command to see if the file is
> > being used. If not, check to see if you currently have the
> > appropriate capabilities to purge the file. Consult with
> > your account manager or system manager.
> >
> > Thanx,
> > Jonathan (Jon) M. Backus, MPE-CSM ~ President
> > Tech Group ~ 15 Catawba Place ~ Hagerstown, MD ~ 21742-6515
> > Email: [log in to unmask] ~ AIM: JMBackus
> > Vmail: 301.988.0614 ~ Fmail: 301.714.1854
> > Web: www.TechGroupMD.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> > Behalf Of Gaunt, Dennis x5324
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:21 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Stuck Files
> >
> >
> > listf eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,2
> > ACCOUNT= AIHBETA GROUP= DATA
> >
> > FILENAME CODE ------------LOGICAL RECORD----------- ----SPACE----
> > SIZE TYP EOF LIMIT R/B SECTORS #X MX
> >
> > ECLXCOPY 200B FAK 0 1150000 20 98832 18 *
> >
> > listf eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,9
> > ********************
> > FILE: ECLXCOPY.DATA.AIHBETA
> > 0 Accessors
> >
> > This file was created by a batch file, that one of our programmers made.
> > I'm still a little sketchy as to its use, but he explains that this
> > program
> > is no longer used.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Shahan, Ray [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:08 PM
> > > To: 'Gaunt, Dennis x5324'; [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: RE: Stuck Files
> > >
> > > Do a LISTF,2 and ,9 on the file.
> > >
> > > Send the results of the 2 LISTF command back to this list, so we can
see
> > > what you got.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gaunt, Dennis x5324 [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:55 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Stuck Files
> > > >
> > > > (Run as SM)
> > > >
> > > > OPERATOR.SYS:purge eclxcopy.data.aihbeta
> > > > END OF FILE (FSERR 0)
> > > > Unable to purge file "ECLXCOPY.DATA.AIHBETA". (CIERR 384)
> > > >
> > > > The file has no accessories, and has not been accessed since its
> > > creation
> > > > almost a year ago. As a side note the file has no records but is
> > taking
> > > > up
> > > > 98832 Sectors. Thats a lot of nothing...
> > > > I have also tried to Store this file to Null, with a purge, and it
> > > failed
> > > > with same errors.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Berkowitz [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:08 PM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Stuck Files
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis Gaunt writes
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new to the HP3000 scene and I'm still learning the ropes.
Does
> > > > anyone
> > > > > out there know how to purge a file that is "stuck open" it has no
> > > > > processes
> > > > > attached and no sessions associated with it, yet when I attempt to
> > > purge
> > > > > it,
> > > > > the file is "In use". Can someone give me a clue or perhaps some
> > > > insight
> > > > > into something I am missing?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Dennis Gaunt, MIS
> > > > > Community Care of Oklahoma
> > > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > > Do the following first
> > > > > :LISTFILE filename,9
> > > > > See if anyone has the file open
> > > > > If no one does, then
> > > > > :PURGE filename
> > > > > report the exact message back to the list if it doesn't purge
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Berkowitz
> > > > > Guess? Inc.
> > > > >
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