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Fred White writes:

>A cute, but too simplistic answer. The terrorists are extremists within
>alarger community (the majority of which are not extremists) many of
>whom see the US as treating them unfairly relative to our treatment of
>others. They see us do nothing to Israel after their invasion of
>Lebanon. They see us invoke severe sanctions against Iraq after their
>invasion of Kuwait.

They hate the US so much that they are seeking entry in large numbers. They must love their own country so much that they leave it.

Israel has had their civilian people killed in masses by the terrorist and their supporters. Lebanon was hiding the terrorist and was having major problems with in their own country and either allowd the terrorist to cross over to Israel or hide the terrorist, and, again as I recall, Israel made numerous attempt to resolve the issue. MMMM , seems to me if I get clubbed enough by someone, I might strike back also.

With regards to Iraq, I don't recall the Kuwait people or government inviting the invasion of their country. I also dont recall them provoking the invasion.  As a matter of fact, I dont recall Kurwait doing anything to Iraq to provoke the invasion. 



>This prompts their antipathy. It is also exacerbated when they see us
>(for decades) supply Israel with money and weapons and do (almost?)
>nothing for Palestine. They also see our media and government call
>Palestinian attacks, "terrorism" and don't give similar opinions of
>Israeli attacks.

And the U.S. should give money and weapons to Palestine. I wonder where the money they they have gotten the years gone. Me thinks in some's pocket and not the people who he pretends to represent. 
I think individuals who set out to kill civilians are terrorist, the Isreali attacks are directed toward the terrorist who hide behind the civilian population. I dare say that Israel would not even go againt the civilians if the terrorist didn't hide among them.

>The fact that the Palestinians resort to unconventional means to
>battle, is not attributed to the fact that, unlike the Israelis, they
>do not have support of the most powerful nation on Earth. Instead, we
>just write them off as "terrorists" who "get what they deserve".

Already enough said.

>If you recall our own revolution, the British red coats marched along
>in military formation while we resorted to ungentlemanly (terrorist)
>tactics such as ambush. We didn't  possess a trained military with
>comparable weaponry so were forced to adopt a strategy which seemed to
>have the best chance of success. That's what today's terrorists have
>been forced to do.

Based upon my history, the U S army started out as a rag tag group of people. However, at Yorktown, the U S army was a well trained military force for its time. The use of trees and ambush was just an evolution of military tatics. 

I hardly think that the direct killing of civilians is an evolution of military tatics.

>What Abe meant (above) is that we should find ways to make them our
>friends. This can't happen unless and until we find out WHY they are
>our enemies and remove those reasons.

>Killing them won't cut it. Unless you want to kill them all, like
>Hitler tried with the Jews.

I dont recall anyone saying anything about killing them all except terrorist who wants to kill anyone who disagrees with them.
I will agree that it is important that to find reason and resolve is important to peace. The big question involves the individuals who have no reason other than to kill for killing sakes. There have been several attempts to establish a point of agreement to lead to peaces but the terrorist wont let it happen. The crazies go in and blow up a few buses and Israel srikes back. Who provoked the attack. 

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