What about the single point of failure in this...the phone line. Does that
scare IT managers?
John Lee
At 11:39 AM 12/5/03 -0600, Shahan, Ray wrote:
>Nice explanation, Duane. There is a piece missing, however, that I picked
>up from the IBM side of the house. The virtualization of the hardware will
>also be a situation where many companies "share" the same hardware (CPU),
>and each uses the hardware at an opportune time. This would eliminate
>paying for more horsepower than you need, yet having all you need when you
>actually need it. So, company A on the East coast uses CPU J in Oklahoma at
>6:00 am EST, then company B on the West coast used the same CPU J in
>Oklahoma at 6:00 am Pacific time. Assuming a 3 hour process time window,
>company A and company B both get the three hours from a dedicated CPU
>without any impact to each other, and neither had to pay the full price for
>the CPU.
>
>Yes, it will indeed happen, and it will be the next revolution in IT.
>
>
>
>Ray Shahan
>
>"There is so much good in the worst of us,
>and so much bad in the best of us,
>that it behooves none of us
>to talk about the rest of us"
> --Robert Louis Stevenson?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Duane Percox [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:24 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: HP virtual adaptive enterprises
>>
>> John writes:
>>
>> >So here we have a group of reasonably intelligent and very
>> >experienced technoids on this list, and nobody can understand
>> >what HP is driving at. Excuse me, but this only makes me want
>> >to sell my HP stock. Or is this some new marketing method
>> >that is ahead of me and I can't grasp with my small,
>> >martini-soaked midwestern brain?
>>
>> You might want to search the archives for posts I have made on
>> this topic. The most recent one being 11/20/2003.
>>
>> Second, you should check out Sun Microsystems and anything they
>> have to say about N1, IBM and anything they have to say about
>> the Utility Data Center.
>>
>> All three vendors are working on virtualizing the datacenter. The
>> reason you are seeing press releases is there is a race on to see
>> who can get there first and establish themselves as the vendor
>> to work with to establish a true virtual datacenter.
>>
>> I think one of the reasons these things are hard to grasp is that
>> the typical hpe3000 shop is not the size of those that are pushing
>> the vendors for this type of solution. At the SMB level you are
>> probably not going to need or get much benefit from such
>> virtualization. At this time. However, just as disk virtualization
>> started out for the 'big guys', we are now starting to see disk
>> array technology become more available for the masses as price
>> points drop and improvements in on-board management allow the
>> less sophisticated to install/use the technology.
>>
>>
>> Try the following to help grasp this interesting initiative:
>>
>> * Consider what virtualized disk arrays did for managing disk
>> when you couldn't manage JBOD anymore. The disk array hides
>> the complexity of managing all that disk storage efficiently.
>>
>> Take this idea and project it to virtualize your servers in the
>> data center. Instead of designating specific servers for specific
>> applications you would build a pool of servers and the virtualization
>> layer would manage all your resources so your applications get executed
>> on the appropriate server(s) at the time. Servers can be removed/added
>> to the datacenter without concern (hot swappable servers).
>>
>> Keep in mind that for all this to work you must have a level of
>> cooperation
>> between servers, server components, and application software that
>> currently doesn't exist. This is why this is so ambitious. But, I
>> believe
>> it will happen. It's a natural evolution that cannot be stopped.
>>
>>
>> Interesting Sidebar
>> -------------------
>> I am not fully aware of the inner-think at HP, but the virtualization
>> research has been going on within the major vendors for some time.
>> If there was a requirement that all HP servers co-exist in the virtual
>> data center (even before it was shown any light in customer land) and
>> that all server divisions do the engineering/work to play in the
>> virtual data center - then I could see the cost for making the HP e3000
>> co-exist cost prohibitive and might have played a role in any decisions
>> WRT to ending sales.
>>
>>
>> duane 'when can I virtualize the programmers' percox
>>
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