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HP: The world awaits your answer.....

> ----------
> From:         Simonsen, Larry[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reply To:     Simonsen, Larry
> Sent:         Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:33 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: HP3000's Future?
>
> In my opinion the thing that kills 3000s is not time but os upgrade
> complexity.  The manual for version 6.5 upgrade is about 1" thick.  Can I
> give this to a plant manager who currently just changes the tapes for each
> nightly backup and ask him to upgrade the os?  No way.  For his NT server
> it
> is put in the cd and update.   As a result of this systems go on older and
> older version of the OS and then die.  Why can we not make it simpler to
> patch and update systems?
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Larry Simonsen                Phone: 801-489-2450
> Flowserve Corporation     Fax: 801-491-1750
> PO Box 2200                    http://www.Flowserve.com
> Springville, UT 84663      e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> -------------------------------------------------
> All opinions expressed herein are my own and reflect, in no way, those of
> my
> employer.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:   Graham, Robert [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:   Thursday, April 27, 2000 1:25 PM
> To:     [log in to unmask]
> Subject:        Re: HP3000's Future?
>
> Man, this is a little bit like asking God to examine the books!
>
> In my humble opinion, the HP3000 has survived everything HP could do to
> kill
> it (short of coming simply ceasing production) for one reason and one
> reason
> only...it is quite simply the most stable and friendly business computing
> platform extant today.  No one has yet built anything that can compare.
> NT?
> fugedaboudit!  IBM? The AS400 came close, but no cigar.  The 9000? Closer,
> but still no contest.
>
> The HP3k is like that silly little rabbit...it just keeps on going and
> going
> and....
>
> Having said all that, I also believe the HP3k's days are numbered.  It
> isn't
> sexy and new and glitzy, despite HP's silly attempt at hipping it up by
> jumping on the "e" bandwagon, and can't shake the "legacy" attachment
> (what
> the heck does "legacy" mean, anyway?   Old?).
>
> Be a darn shame when it disappears, but then all us "old" things die off
> eventually.
>
> Bob Graham
> Director of Applications Programming
>
>
> "...for I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds..." - Quotation from
> the "Rig Veda" that occured to Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, 5:29:45 am,
> July 16th, 1945, Trinity Site, New Mexico.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Keefer
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:57 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: HP3000's Future?
>
>
> I was just wondering what your opinion of the future of the HP3000 series.
> I have been on it since 1977 and truly love the system.  I have seen it
> decline in the 90s as it was replaced by "better" systems (mostly
> client-server).  In the past year, I have seen 4 companies reverse
> direction
> after discovering that client-server is slow, unreliable, and high-cost to
> maintain.  Amisys is the latest.  They have dumped there non-HP version
> due
> to lack of interest from customers.  I just wanted to hear other people's
> feeling for the future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Randy Keefer, Consultant
> [log in to unmask]
>

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