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Very minor correction, the K class refers to chassis, which is 9x9 only on 
the 3000 side.A  It's chassis is identical to the 9000 K class.

John Lee
Preferred Systems Maintenance, don't call us vaske anymore! :)


t 01:43 PM 10/28/08 -0500, Ron Seybold wrote:
>Hello Friends,
>
>I am glad to see Mark report on his installations for his client, a major 
>airline transaction processor. I have heard from more than one 3000 
>community member about new installations of HP 3000s. So new installs are 
>a non-zero number. (Oh, and to explain, a K-Class 3000 is a Series 9xx 
>system. The same kind that sell for $1,800 in their very smallest size, 
>more than a decade after HP introduced them.)
>
>At this stage of the 3000's life, these numbers are not what matters 
>anymore, although they are a very easy metric to count.
>
>I'll have more to say about this on our blog today, but it's too early to 
>tote up the HP 3000's platform value. In case you haven't noticed, the 
>world's economy experienced a reboot over the past 30 days, and people are 
>revising their assessments concerning computers. HP has not sold an HP 
>3000 for five years, as of this Friday. The number of new systems is of 
>far less importance than the number of old experts. From the looks of the 
>traffic on this newsgroup/list, that group is retaining its critical mass.
>
>Speedware has been making a business out of employing HP 3000 experts for 
>several years. Next month in our printed issue I've got interviews with a 
>few new one-man support suppliers, serving companies of all sizes, and 
>Adager tells me they encounter new vendors like this while Adager works 
>with its customers. Jim's success in learning new technologies is a good 
>one which will have value to a 3000 installation, should HP really keep a 
>promise to sell an emulator license for MPE -- and some company release an 
>emulator.
>
>HP will not be doing anything more to support the 3000 with anything new, 
>starting in 2009 -- with the exception of what OpenMPE can wrest in 
>promises for intellectual property use of MPE/iX. That's what happens when 
>you shut down your development labs. The lights go out on HP's 3000 
>creativity at the end of this year. "What's new lately" is a question 
>which HP answered for the last time in the summer of 2007, when the SCSI 
>pass through driver was released.
>
>Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone experienced the value of that 
>SCSI engineering? Craig Fairchild of HP said last summer that using this 
>final gift "is not for the faint of heart." The experts on this list have 
>shown very strong hearts, older yes, but still true.
>
>Best to all, and tell us what you're doing with your 3000,
>
>Ron Seybold
>3000 NewsWire
>
>300newswire.com/blog
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