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November 2001, Week 4

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Regarding the comment "there is so little hardware difference", 

Can I relate an 
experience we had a couple of years ago ?

We lost a processor, the machine crashed and came back up on the 
two remaining processors and carried on with a degraded 
performance until the HP engineer arrived with a replacement. 

We shut the machine down replaced the offending board and brought the
machine up.  
It stayed up for overnight but crashed again the next morning and dropped
the new board.  

Engineer arrived again with another board and replaced it etc.  turned out
that HP had 
sent a HP9000 board ( there was some subtle difference HP told us ).

Surely it's going to depend entirely on hardware differences as to whether
we 
can rely on replacement parts being manufactured, taking into account the
most
subtle of differences between HP9000 and HP3000 hardware ?  

Bill  


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-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Scott [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 27 November 2001 21:43
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Subject: [HP3000-L] I don't think you get it.


In spite of the years of experience evidenced by many posts to this list,
there seems to be a great lack of common sense. All the talk about Open
MPE  and Image and MPE emulators etc., etc., exhibit either extreme naiveté
or a colossal pipe dream.

HP has announced the end of the 3000, but not the 9000. Since there is so
little hardware difference between the two, what HP is saying is "We
don't want MPE or Image around anymore. We don't think it is in ANYBODY's
(anybody that HP cares about anyway) best interest for MPE to
continue on."  If this assessment were incorrect and HP just didn'w want to
foot the bill for MPE development and support, HP would have
announced aggressive plans to release all MPE to some open source plan and
would continue to manufacture hardware (in the form of the 9000)
that MPE could run on.

HP has announced the end of the OS. They have their reasons, which make
dollars and sense to them. An open MPE would muddy their water and
compete with the great plan their actions suggest they are following.

After working on the 3000 for more than twenty years, it pains me as much as
anyone to face this. Recognize HP's lip service for what it is, but
don't hold your breath waiting for OpenMPE. I just don't think it will ever
happen.

Matt Scott

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