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Dave Darnell <[log in to unmask]>
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Dave Darnell <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:52:23 -0700
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Thanks, Shawn,

I vaguely wondered about NFS, but to simplify the whole mess, I assumed no
third-party.

-dtd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Gordon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:31 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: run a remote program file locally.
>
>
> As I recall it was either part of Netbase or NFS from Quest
> that allows you
> to work with remote files and programs.  It would of course involve
> spending money, a good amount of it actually, on a product,
> but there is an
> option.
>
> At 12:28 PM 10/31/2000, Dave Darnell wrote:
> >Tom,
> >
> >question answered (required strictly literal interpretation)
> but answers to
> >your questions in-line:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Emerson, Tom # El Monte
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 12:16 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: run a remote program file locally.
> > >
> > >
> > > Without getting too much into the technical details of what
> > > it means to
> > > "run" a program on a particular machine, let me ask this:
> > >
> > >    Does your boss want to see the CPU of sytem ALPHA consumed
> > > as opposed to
> > > the CPU of BRAVO?
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> > >
> > >    Does your boss want the files that are processed by "prog
> > > X" to be local
> > > to ALPHA as opposed to BRAVO?
> > >
> >Yes.
> >
> >
> > > I suspect it is the latter -- the former is "impossible"
> > > without copying the
> > > "executable" in some manner to Alpha (but you knew that... ;)
> >
> >Yeah I did, but my word wasn't good enough.  Plus, there's a
> lot of 3K lore
> >I don't know.
> >
> >
> > > )  Besides,
> > > the program on "bravo" may refuse to run on "alpha" if, say,
> > > it checks for
> > > the HPSUSAN to match some internal value.
> >
> >Not in this case, it's our commercial software.
> >
> > >
> > > One way to "run" a program on a remote machine yet have it
> > > affect files on
> > > the local machine is as follows:
> > >
> > > BRAVO:REMOTE:ALPHA HELLO ME,MYSELF.I
> > > BRAVO:FILE IN1=IN1:ALPHA#
> > > BRAVO:FILE IN2=IN2:ALPHA#
> > > BRAVO:FILE OUT1=OUT1:ALPHA#
> > > BRAVO:RUN LOCAL.PROG.NAME
> > >
> > > Note that you are actually "local" to BRAVO, but all the
> > > files affected are
> > > located on ALPHA
> > >
> > > I'm not entirely sure of the syntax, but I also seem to
> recall a node
> > > redirector of "$BACK", which would (should?) make the example
> > > look like
> > > this:
> > >
> > > ALPHA:REMOTE:BRAVO
> > > BRAVO#HELLO ME,MYSELF.I
> > > BRAVO#:FILE IN1=IN1;DEV=$BACK
> > > BRAVO#:FILE IN2=IN2;DEV=$BACK
> > > BRAVO#:FILE OUT1=OUT1;DEV=$BACK
> > > BRAVO#:RUN LOCAL.PROG.NAME
> >
> >The $back scenario yields the same problem: you cant :run
> >program.prog.acct:$back
> >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, these "solutions" may not work if the program
> > > opens the files
> > > with the "NO FILE EQUATES" foption (or if the program
> > > explicitly issues
> > > :FILE commands)
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave Darnell
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:06 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [HP3000-L] run a remote program file locally.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pardon me, but my boss insists that I post this inquiry.
> > >
> > > Systems Alpha and Bravo are both modern MPE/iX machines with
> > > all the common
> > > components such as Network Services.  A program exists on
> > > system Bravo.
> > > Without copying the program to system Alpha, how can we
> > > execute it on system
> > > Alpha?
> > >
> > > Thnx for humoring me.
> > >
> > > -dtd
> > >
> >


Regards,

Shawn Gordon
President
theKompany.com
www.thekompany.com
949-713-3276

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