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Richard Barker <[log in to unmask]>
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Richard Barker <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:12:13 +0100
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1)  Admit that if it weren't for the USA Europe would have been under
the Nazi heel a lot longer, maybe for several generations, maybe forever.

This is such a stupid argument, without Europe's help, Germany, Italy and
Japan might have beaten the US in a war, you can't just say one country won
the war, it was a combined effort and it's sad that you keep ignoring that.
Thousand of events took place that perhaps you are not aware of.  It wasn't
just about money, troops and equipment.

2)  Don't cry 'arrogance' when the USA saves another country from a tyrant.

Just cry hypocrisy when the US supports and funds another tyrant as it's
good for business.  Can you give one example where America has removed a
tyrant to save the people of that country, rather than for it's own
interests.

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I mentioned the countries "Australia, New Zealand, Poland, Czechoslovakia,
Hungary, France, Russia, Belgium, India, Britain,  Canada, Sweden, Norway,
Denmark, Finland, etc saved America from speaking German/Japanese."

Brice wrote " Most of the rest were part of the UK, so that is just a
literary trick on your part to take what is essentially one nation and name
it several times.  And Finland?  Please explain that?"

I am very confused by your remark Brice, especially "Most of the rest were
part of the UK". I suppose you could mention India as it wasn't yet
independent, but still I wouldn't describe it as part of the UK.



-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Yokem [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 15 February 2004 17:16
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Rules for being a republican and other
follies. (Warning, long.)


How many years does Europe have to put up with the US's arrogance before
its "debt" to the US for "saving Europe" in WWII is paid?

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No time at all.

1)  Admit that if it weren't for the USA Europe would have been under
the Nazi heel a lot longer, maybe for several generations, maybe forever.

2)  Don't cry 'arrogance' when the USA saves another country from a tyrant.

Both of the above are factual statements and it is not arrogant to claim
they are true.

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