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November 2001, Week 3

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One good example of this is the recent inclusion of cstm in MPE and the way
it's been received by the MPE community.  Yes, STM works IF you stop the
daemon before shutting down the network, start it up after restarting
networking, wait several minutes, etc., etc.  Most of us find this
unacceptable because the old SYSDIAG simply worked - period.  It didn't
matter what else we did.  It would take some real effort to break it.  Now
we have a temperamental (petulant?) replacement that is hard not to break.
This is progress?  As I've said before, it's a shame the industry has come
to accept this kind of kluge as normal and expected in the name of
"openness".

-----Original Message-----
From: Wirt Atmar [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:46 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: POSIX


Jeff Vance writes:

> But, as has already been posted, on UNIX systems there is no
>  TEMP domain where the file automatically goes away after you
>  logoff.

Which is only one of a thousand niceties that I'm going to sorely miss.

If anyone asks why I'm so attached to MPE -- it's just another operating
system, isn't it? -- this is certainly one of them. That and the simple,
English-like commands -- and the reliability, and robustness, and the
forgiveness of the thing.

It's possible to take MPE apart, piece-by-piece, and say that there's really
nothing special about it, just as they did with Einstein's brain. But it's
the whole that counts.

Wirt Atmar

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