Now, think of this :

You guys in the States in the 50s-60s had minimal or even no gun control.
AND you lived a safer life. Of course, this is true. NOW you've got some
measure of gun control, AND you live a less safe life. Of course, this is
true. Now ... we guys in Europe have LOTS OF gun control. AND we live an
even less safe life, watch what the latest elections in most European
countries were about : safety of individuals and their belongings. Of course
it's true, you just have to watch our TV programs !!!!

Logical conclusion : the more gun control you have, the less safe life you
have.

Or, to put it otherwise, remove gun control and live a safe life.

Christian "What ? Me, cynical ? Nooooo !!!" Lheureux
AIM nickname : MPE Evangelist


> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]De la
> part de Gates, Scott
> Envoyé : jeudi 7 novembre 2002 14:41
> À : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : Re: [HP3000-L] OT:Looking Back
>
>
> Yes, but the nightly news wasn't filled with stories of the
> kidnapping of
> children by strangers from the kid's bedroom.  Nor was the
> dairy case of
> your grocier a picture gallery of missing children.  I'm not
> rightly sure,
> but *I think* we lived in safer times back then.  Maybe it was just an
> illusion of safety, but I was allowed freedoms that I
> wouldn't THINK of
> letting my child try today.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vivino, David [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: OT:Looking Back
>
>
> +soapbox+
> Unfortunately today's parents spend too much effort catering
> to their kids.
> Making sure they have enough potato chips, mountain dew, and
> brownies to
> satisfy them while they watch their favorite video for the
> thirtieth time is
> not conducive to the healthy lifestyle many of us had as
> kids.  Take care
> not to hurt their feelings by telling them they're wrong,
> bad, or not good
> enough to make the baseball team.  Blame the teachers and
> schools when their
> grades suffer.  Take a look at Larry's post - most everything
> he talks about
> happens outside.  Most of what kids do today occurs inside
> and in front of a
> device that feeds their brains mush.  Today's kids are
> growing up expecting
> everything and not willing to sacrifice anything.  And they
> learn it all
> from their parents.
> -soapbox-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Barnes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:09 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] OT:Looking Back
>
>
> Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long
> as we have.
> As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.
> Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always
> a special
> treat.
> Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint.
> We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and
> when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking
> to the ski area as an 11 year old girl!)
> We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.
> We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and
> then rode down
> the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After
> running into the
> bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem.
> We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long
> as we were back
> when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day.
> We played dodge ball and sometimes the ball would really hurt.
> We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soda but
> we were never
> overweight.... we were always outside playing.
> Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team.
> Those who didn't
> had to learn to deal with disappointment...
> Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a
> grade and were
> held back to...repeat the same grade....
> That generation produced some of the best risk-takers and
> problem solvers.
> We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we
> learned how to
> deal with it all.
> And if you're one of them, congratulations!
> WE...ALL...SURVIVED....
>
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