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I am quite sure I am not. I am just debunking misconceptions and
presenting opinions based on my experiences. Just because this is an HP
3000 list does not mean we should have a jaundiced view of the rest of the
world. The HP 3000 is the very best OLTP platform available, but it does
not do everything, nor should it try to do everything.
The shops that have only an HP 3000 with terminals, no PCs or anything
else, are very rare indeed. Virtually all our customers have multiple
platforms, MPE, UNIX, NT, 95, Novell, etc. . . So we deal with
interoperability issues all the time. I have spent my career (25 years so
far) taking care of computer systems, putting them up, writing software for
them both application and utility, supporting them, networking them, and in
the last few years even building them. Computers are like anything else.
If you use cheap components for the sake of saving a few bucks, you will
end up with a cheap, crappy computer. That computer, no matter what OS you
put on it, will give you trouble. On the other hand, if you select a good
computer, or select all top-of-the-line components and install them
properly, you will have a great computer. Now if you install an OS on that
computer, you do not have to worry about the underlying flaky hardware, you
can concentrate on tuning the OS. Using components from reputable
companies with proper support ensures you will get proper drivers for the
hardware. I would say that most problems with NT, not all, are traced to
bad drivers.
That is why you have such a wide range of feedback about NT or Windows 95.
You hear about NT servers running on HP NetServers and Compaq Proliants,
they never go down. You then hear about people running NT server on a 486
with precious little memory found in the gutter and ISA cards they got at
Computer Scraps R Us, and then they blame the OS for frequent hangs and
crashes. I can't help but shudder when I think of the number of people out
there who loaded Windows 95 when it came out 2 years ago, and never updated
the drivers or applied the service pack. That's like running MPE/XL 1.0 on
your MPE box.
Why do you think HP charges so much for components that you can buy far
cheaper at the corner store? They tell you that if you put that stuff in,
it is unsupported and you will have problems. You do not want to do that
to your mission-critical HP 3000, why do you do that to your PC or your NT
server?
Years ago, during the early days of MPE/XL beta tests, (I would say it was
more like an Alpha test), the directors at the company I worked for at the
time, kept asking me, sometimes quite seriously, if I worked for HP because
I was defending HP all the time, and placing everything in perspective.
This was when we belonged to the patch of the week club when the Spectrum
ran a lot faster between system aborts.
I have Windows 98 Beta 2.1 loaded on an older PC. It has been up for a few
months now and it work just fine, thank you. I have also loaded Windows NT
5.0 Server Beta 1 on my laptop. I like what I see. I am looking forward to
the next version. I am corresponding with some hardware vendors regarding
my findings and you can be sure that when people are starting to install
it, our products will be ready and will have been thoroughly tested.
So go ahead with your comments, I am used to them, but I will stand firm
and continue to present balanced opinions. (This does not include Macs, my
opinions on Macs do no represent reality. I just like poking fun at the Mac
gurus on the list.) You can rest assured that when I classify something as
bad, it will be something you want to stay away from, like MS IE 4.0.
Kind regards,
Denys. . .
Denys Beauchemin
HICOMP America, Inc.
(800) 323-8863 (281) 288-7438 Fax: (281) 355-6879
[log in to unmask] www.hicomp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Gale [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 9:13 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: A golden opportunity for MPE/iX
-----Original Message-----
From: Denys P. Beauchemin [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 1997 7:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: A golden opportunity for MPE/iX
One day soon, I will show you an NT server. Mine stays up for weeks on
end. I shut it down because I am always fiddling with it, adding hardware
and doing stuff.
Kind regards,
Denys. . .
Denys Beauchemin
HICOMP America, Inc.
(800) 323-8863 (281) 288-7438 Fax: (281) 355-6879
[log in to unmask] www.hicomp.com
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Hi Denys!
Are you sure your not on the MS payroll? ;-)
Dave Gale Phone: (505) 342-4660
Systems/Operations Manager Fax: (505) 342-0595
Health Care Horizons, Inc. e-mail: [log in to unmask]
2129 Osuna NE, Floor 3
Albuquerque NM 87109 'Someone who has not made a mistake
is someone who hasn't done
anything.'
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