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Mike Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Mike Church <[log in to unmask]>
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I have a minor in ancient history (that is why I still remember Cobol -
hehe).
Ah it is all too true...
  Those how fail to learn from history,
  are bound to repeat the same mistakes

I've seen these new "NT" systems, and web enabled applications..
some are good, but most are just this side of functional.

We have just completed an enchantment to our system for an APC grouper.
We use an HP 3000, running McKessonHBOC Precision 2000.

They (HBOC) had the code ready and we are up and running.

The NT based systems aren't there yet...
The UNIX systems aren't there yet...
The IBM systems (SMS and others) aren't there yet...

But we are.

A fully functional bi-directional APC grouper tied directly into
our patient accounting system. Developed and implemented in a matter
of weeks!

<<plug>>
The Precision 2000 is a complete Hospital Information System (HIS)
that is scalable, affordable, reliable, and very very flexible.
<<end of plug>>

Just my humble view...

mc

Mike Church
Technical Support Manager
Information Services
Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital
Saint Christopher Drive
Ashland, Kentucky 41101
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-----Original Message-----
From: dsilva [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:28 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [HP3000-L] If there are HP people in this forum they would be
laughing big time....


<<    "PSST ... Carly we want to let the world in on your secret ... with
the HP
e3000 your organization manages the manufacturing of over $20Billion of
products>>

      The systems you are talking about are a "web" of inconsistencies, hard
to trace, hard to research, hard to manage, poorly documented, of very
cumbersome design, full of holes, obsolete technologies and on and on,
product of years of a mix of changing technologies and constant upward/task
change and "promotions" of the very hp employees that designed these
systems.  That is why HP is doing a lot of migrating.  That is why HP is
about invent and change.  Because they have no choice, otherwise the giant
will drop like a rock from within.

      Whatever you think the big giant is, chances are that you are wrong
unless you have been there.   I dag the giant deeper than a lot of people I
know, through out and worldwide.  What I found would make a grade school
programmer apprentice look like a pro.

      Concerning uptime hardware and operating system wise they have a
stable platform, so do others.

      I am not trying to create conflict here but it amazes me to read about
this and the "collection" effort in progress.   Anybody with some "cloud"
can get a first hand impression from the horse's mouth if they try hard
enough.

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