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"Eric H. Sand" <[log in to unmask]>
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Eric H. Sand
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Wed, 29 Oct 1997 16:14:54 -0600
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Regarding Duane Percox's observations of Distributed Objects for the
HP3000:

    Many of the detractors of the HP3000(that say the HP3000 is a "dead"
platform)
    are saying so for the very reason that there are no Distributed
Object suites
    available, either DCOM or CORBA compliant. There are a great many
sites that
    our company supports that will move from the HP3000 in the next 2-4
years unless
    this is addressed. These sites do NOT want to move if at all
possible. Our vote
    is for CORBA, but anything is better than nothing.

    If HP has plans to support DO on the HP3000 , many of us would
breath easier
    just knowing that without regard to when.


                                   Thank You....Eric Sand
                                                       [log in to unmask]


        Ken Sletten writes:

        >DIGRESSION while talking trade rags:
        >On pages 61-62 of the 20 Oct ComputerWorld, it says that
        >Software AG, Inc. is in the process of porting MS DCOM to
        >various non-Windows platforms:  Solaris, Digital UNIX,
        >HP-UX (beta end of 97), and AIX (1998).... If DCOM is going
        >to be on HP-UX, I wonder how much of an effort it would be
        >to get it running under MPE/iX ??..  For sites like ours that
        >will never be running anything except Windows clients,
        >having DCOM on the 3000 could be a nice "feature"....

        Let me replay the Duane Percox broken record of Distributed
Objects:

        Asked at IRPOF'96:

        Q: Has HP considered providing Distributed Object Technology for
the
           HP 3000?
        A: Our customers haven't been asking for this so we don't have
any plans.

        Asked at HPWorld'96:

        Q: Distributed Object Technology is the future of software
development.
           What is HP doing to provide this functionality on the HP
3000?
        A: Our customers haven't been asking for this so we don't have
any plans.

        Asked at HPWorld'97:

        Q: What are HP's plans for providing Distributed Object
Technology on
           the HP 3000?
        A: Our customers haven't been asking for this so we don't have
any plans.


        Let me take this opportunity to communicate with folks from HP
who are
        listening in on this forum:

        1. Distributed Object Technology is not going away. It is
becoming
           more pervasive and would be an awesome way for the 3k to
interoperate
           within a heterogenous network.

        2. This is like very forward thinking hardware issues. Your
typical
           customer is not aware of the possibilities. Just because they
don't
           ask doesn't mean they wouldn't like to have it.

        3. This is a great area for tilling the soil while the developer
community
           comes up to speed on the possibilities. A little education, a
little
           joint discovery. A little foundation laying.

        4. I challenge HP to articulate a vision for software objects on
the
           HP 3000, especially distributed ones. Talk to the Java and
Netscape
           porting teams about this and let them lead a little. You
never know
           where this could end up. Besides, IBM has done this for the
AS/400 and
           you don't want them to use that against you.

        5. Don't forget that you sell a CORBA 2.0 compliant ORB for
HP-UX.

        Duane Percox ([log in to unmask]  v/650.306.1608 f/650.365.2706)
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