Several people have reported their mail was "bouncing" when they tried
to post a message to hp3000-l.  Let me clarify the current situation for
this and any future bounces you might get when posting to the list.

Glenn Cole wrote me privately:
> Hi, Jeff --
> I sent this to "Raven" an hour or so ago, and it bounced.

Actually it didn't.  Keep reading.

> I've already resent via "utcvm"; I just thought you might
> be interested in seeing this.

No need to resend to utcvm (hp3000-L@utcvm is forwarded to raven anyway,
and there are no remnants of hp3000-L on utcvm).


> Forwarded message:
> >From [log in to unmask] Tue Oct  8 11:17:18 1996
> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>
> From: USLD/USLD2/POSTMASTER <[log in to unmask]>
                                                             ^^^^^^^^
First, note it is from usld.com, not raven.  If your own posting was
failing, you would get a bounce from your own (or your ISP's) mailer or
possibly one of utc.edu's mailers.  This message was posted.  The bounce
you see is a list subscriber's delivery attempt being bounced back to
you (contrary to RFC etiquette) instead of owner-hp3000-L.

> To: Glenn Cole <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Mail failure
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:19:00 -0500
> X-Mailer:  Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector

Aha... yet another MS Exchange victim :-)

> [002] Mail was received for unknown addresses.
> Message was not delivered to
>   USLD/USLD2/cyga6275 (USLD/USLD2/cyga6275)

We have two subscribers at usld.com.  Their mail is intermittently
bouncing like this, yet I've been able to get through to both of them
eventually trying to solve this last week.  At any rate, neither of them
resembles "cyga6275" nor the actual subscriber addresses so this one
took some time to track down.

So if you post to the list, don't panic at this (or any possible future)
bounce coming back to you erroneously.  If usld.com doesn't get the bugs
worked out, I'll set the subscribers in digest mode until they do;
meanwhile be a little patient while longer since I *have* heard from
them since this started.

No offense intended to usld.com, MS exchange, or other innocent
bystanders :-)

Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]>