HP3000-L Archives

November 2008, Week 2

HP3000-L@RAVEN.UTC.EDU

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
"Newton, Ernie" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
Newton, Ernie
Date:
Sun, 9 Nov 2008 10:20:40 -0800
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (84 lines)
Mr. Byrne,

Your supposed rhetoric does nothing to prove your original post...

""for having made utterances with no more evil intent than that of the OP.
A number of them are imprisoned by the United States Government itself or
by national authorities acting on its behest."

...and any statement of fact cannot have your quote.."this person may have "...

I congratulate you for having the knowledge of all things related to the inner
workings of our government.  Maybe obama can use you as a member of his cabinet.

Your arrogance shines through and I have no more time to waste on your ilk.

Ernie
________________________________________
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James B. Byrne [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:06 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Civil Discourse

On: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:10:01 -0800, "Newton, Ernie" wrote:

 Snippet from James B. Byrne...

<for having made utterances with no more evil intent than that of the OP.
A number of them are imprisoned by the United States Government itself or
by national authorities acting on its behest.>

>> Really?
>>
>> Name two.
>> Ernie

Maher Arar, Canadian
Abdullah Almalki, Canadian
Ahmad Abou-Elmaati, Canadian
Muayyed Nureddin, Canadian
Khaled el-Masri, German
Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, Egyptian

There are an estimated 1100 others documented by Human Rights Watch and
Amnesty International.  Some, like the Canadians listed above, have been
released.  Most have not.  I could also list Omar Khadr, taken by U.S.
Forces at the age of fourteen and presently held at Guantanamo Bay since
he was fifteen.

Omar Khadr has been charged with murder, which is a curious accusation to
level at someone who was taken as a wounded combatant following a U.S.
instigated attack upon a fixed position, but we will pass over that for
the moment. As a fourteen year-old Omar should have been treated as a
child soldier, a victim not a perpetrator.  Consider that the United
States itself enacted as law the Child Soldiers Accountability Act,
Chapter 118 of title 18, Sec. 2442, "Recruitment or use of child soldiers"
which makes it illegal to recruit or employ children under the age of
fifteen as combatants.

Further, despite U.S. claims regarding this captive's actions, documents
which were withheld from his defence team but subsequently released
indicate that there is reason to believe that, far from murdering a U.S.
soldier, this person may have been the victim of a botched battlefield
execution by one or more U.S. personnel.
http://www.thestar.com/article/345838

Your evident ignorance, wilful or not, of your country's actions around
the world these past eight years does you no credit.

--
***          E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel          ***
James B. Byrne                mailto:[log in to unmask]
Harte & Lyne Limited          http://www.harte-lyne.ca
9 Brockley Drive              vox: +1 905 561 1241
Hamilton, Ontario             fax: +1 905 561 0757
Canada  L8E 3C3

* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *

The Yolo County Office of Education has scanned this message for viruses and dangerous content

* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *

ATOM RSS1 RSS2